On 7 May 2009, at 02:36, SteveC wrote: > Hi > > We've put together a practical definition for the OSMFs point of view > on what a substantial extract is, or isn't > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_Defined > > And we'd like help similarly with building a practical definition of > Produced Work. Here's how the license RC1 defines it: > > "Produced Work" – a work (such as an image, audiovisual material, > text, or sounds) resulting > from using the whole or a Substantial part of the Contents (via a > search or other query) from this > Database, a Derivative Database, or this Database as part of a > Collective Database. > > > Thoughts on more practical definitions?
The distinction between and Produced Work and a Derived Database is an important one for the ODbL license and there appears to be an assumption by the authors that something is either one or the other but not both. A BMP, PNG or JPEG map could I guess be safely considered to be Produced Works and not to be a Derived Databases. There may be other formats that come to mind that also fall clearly into the Produced Work category, such as MPEG video used with TV broadcasts etc etc. In our earlier discussions about this issue on the list we identified a number of vector formats that could be considered and used as Derived Databases and Produced Works; including KML, SVG, Postscript and PDF. Vector format such as KML can be used for something very small, such a single node, or very large, such as the railways of the world or conceivably I guess the whole OSM dataset. The above list of vector format is details the existing known formats in widespread usage. There is a general trend towards vector descriptions and usage is only going to grow and we need to allow for the unexpected uses that will emerge. We covered the issue here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_Licence/Use_Cases#When_is_something_a_Derivative_Database_when_is_it_a_Produced_Work_and_can_it_be_both Commercial mapping companies solve the problem of vector formats by adding a simple clause to their license saying 'no vector data' but I don't think that any of us are proposing something like that for OSM. Personally I think we are going to need to allow these vector formats to be both Produced Works and Derived Databases and explain how one should attribute and license a 'substantial' vector description of 100+ features such as a KML file or SVG file. Thanks for raising the issue on the list Steve. Regards, Peter > > > Best > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
