<mike@...> writes: >Any chance of you changing your decline now, that is the easiest way >of decreasing deletions?
I am still hopeful of finding a way forward that will mean the OSM data can continue to be distributed under a licence that I would consider free and open. Although Creative Commons or public domain would be ideal, they are not the only choices. In the light of the legal reports I have shared with the LWG, I hope to persuade the Open Data Commons people that the EULA-like parts of the ODbL (whereby it tries to limit users by contract to give up rights that they might otherwise have) may not be necessary - at least for OSM. I know that even on the ODC mailing lists this is not a universally liked feature of the ODbL. (I had also asked the lawyers to investigate whether this contract-law part of the ODbL might not in fact weaken the enforceability of share-alike, since breach of copyright is much easier to show and has much stronger remedies (for our purpose) than breach of contract - so you really do not want the courts to start interpreting your licence as a contract. Unfortunately they decided that because the OSM map data was within the scope of copyright, the question of the ODbL's enforceability was not important, so they did not answer it.) I still feel that starting to use the ODbL does not automatically imply stopping the use of CC licensing, and that it would be better to offer both the old and new licences, as Wikipedia did with their licence change. As you know I discussed this with the LWG at a meeting a few months ago (although not all members were present). Since we now have a commitment from Creative Commons to release a new version of CC-BY-SA next year, it would make sense to defer the decision of whether to abandon CC altogether until then. -- Ed Avis <e...@waniasset.com> _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk