Hi Chris,

I don't understand why you think this agreement is unacceptable. It
isn't taking any rights away from OSM to use the data that I can see.
MoU agreements are a very typical thing of governments and I don't see
what the issue is.

-Kate

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
> On 03/07/12 17:02, Pekka Sarkola wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> I have prepared with National Land Survey of Finland Memorandum of
>> Understanding (MoU) about usage of their datasets by OpenStreetMap
>> activists. Hare is current draft text for everybody to comment:
>>
>> ----
>> Memorandum of Understanding
>>
>> This Memorandum of Understanding (hereinafter “MoU”) is between the
>> National
>> Land Survey of Finland (hereinafter NLSF) and OpenStreetMap contributors
>> (hereinafter OSM).
>>
>> Background
>> NLSF started to use a new Open Data License for their topographic
>> information datasets (hereinafter Data) on 1st of May 2012. NLSF’s Open
>> Data
>> License grants a worldwide, free of charge and irrevocable parallel right
>> of
>> use to open data. This MoU clarifies how Data can be used when OSM are
>> collecting data to be part of OpenStreetMap database.
>>
>> Usage of NLSF’s data
>> NLSF data can be used at least two (2) ways by OSM:
>> - As reference data: NLSF Data can be used as reference data. For example
>> NLSF’s raster maps or aerial photographs can used as source data when OSM
>> databases are digitized, corrected, validated or in any other way.
>> - As import source: NLSF Data can be imported to be an integral part of
>> OpenStreetMap database.
>>
>> Attribution
>> OSM will add NLSF’s contribution to OpenStreetMap wiki pages as follows:
>>
>>    Finland
>>      National Land Survey of Finland
>>        Contains data from National Land Survey of Finland Topographic
>> Database and other sources,
>>        data extractions started on 05/2012. More specific data sources and
>> data extraction dates are
>>        documented as part of data and in OSM wiki pages
>>
>> OSM are preparing guidelines for all OpenStreetMap data collectors on how
>> to
>> include necessary tag-information for the OpenStreetMap data features.
>> ----
>>
>> Reasons to make this kind of MoU:
>> - Common understanding among OSMers what can and what cannot do with NLSF
>> datasets
>> - Clarify OSMers goals for NLSF when using their datasets
>>
>> Some people may say that we don't even need this kind of MoU. IMHO: maybe
>> it's better to have something than nothing.
>>
>> However, all comments are welcome!
>>
> If the data is licensed in an open way, you don't need this agreement. You
> are tying mapper hands with this agreement and it is, IMO, completely
> unacceptable.
>
> Who will sign this on behalf of OSM? What authority would this person have?
>
> This sets a dangerous precedent that I strongly oppose it.
>
> --
> Cheers, Chris
> user: chillly
>
>
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