I think it's as clear as a non-standard license can be.

As you noted:
"What are some examples of derived products that are re-distributable?"
"2. Creating a slope map"

That's really it in quite explicit terms, I think.

My guess is that they want to limit the distribution of the data itself so they 
would have a bit better understanding of how many organizations/projects/people 
are using the data. This may impact their financing, etc. .. Just guessing of 
course.

Cheers,
-Jaakko

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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org>
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 15:30:02 
To: Licensing and other legal discussions.<legal-talk@openstreetmap.org>
Reply-To: "Licensing and other legal discussions."
        <legal-talk@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] ASTER or no ASTER?

Hi,

    I'm slowly getting a headache from trying to find out wheter the use 
of ASTER data (for hillshading) in the creation of CC-BY-SA licensed map 
tiles is permissible or not.

There are people who say that ASTER is only free for science and 
educational use. I used to think that too. But it's hard to find a good 
statement about that.

 From http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20090629.html:

"NASA and Japan's Ministry of Economy, Trade and industry (METI) 
released the Advanced Spaceborne Thermal Emission and Reflection 
Radiometer (ASTER) Global Digital Elevation Model (GDEM) to the 
worldwide public on June 29, 2009."

No license info on that page, but "release to the worldwide public" is 
something different from "for academic purposes only", isn't it?

Then http://asterweb.jpl.nasa.gov/gdem.asp:

"As a contribution from METI and NASA to the Global Earth Observation 
System of Systems (GEOSS), ASTER GDEM V2 data are available free of 
charge to users worldwide from the Land Processes Distributed Active 
Archive Center (LP DAAC) and J-spacesystems."

No license info again, but "free of charge to users wolrdwide". Hm.

Then https://lpdaac.usgs.gov/products/aster_policies gets interesting 
but the language is somewhat twisted:

"ASTER Redistribution Policies for the General Public"

"ASTER Global DEM (GDEM) data are subject to redistribution and citation 
policies. Before ordering ASTER GDEM data, users must agree to 
redistribute data products only to individuals within their 
organizations or projects of intended use, ..."

But this is about the *redistribution* of data, and I don't want to 
redistribute - I want to make tiles from it. Further down ("Click here 
for additional GDEM redistribution information") it says:

"The general principle is one of reversibility: If someone can recover 
the original x-y-z values from the new product, then that new product 
can NOT be re-distributed."

...

"What are some examples of derived products that are re-distributable?"

"2. Creating a slope map"

This all sounds as if I *can* download the data and use it for 
hillshading as long as I don't redistribute the data itself. Doesn't it?

Bye
Frederik

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