On 14/06/13 07:09, Michal Palenik wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Olov McKie wrote:
Geocoding and license implications
Manual geocoding of an entity that a person has prior local knowledge of, is 
the same process as adding a new entity to the OSM, and as such the person 
geocoding the entity retains their full copyright over the geocoded entity. All 
other geocoding results in a Produced Work, as that term is defined in the 
ODbL. Section 4.5 provides that a Produced Work is not subject to the 
share-alike provisions of Section 4.4 of the ODbL.
as was pointed out before, these implications are wrong:
after adding a poi based on underlaying map data, i do not have full
copyright because it is partially based on underlaying map (if i added
it solely based on GPS coordinates, without any use of map, it would be
a different story)

Produced Works is still a (derivative) database. it is both.

Late to this discussion, sorry, but this is wrong. The Definitions section of ODbL explicitly says that "Conveying does not include... creating and Using a Produced Work", and "Using this database... to create a Produced Work does not create a Derivative Database".

very similar to LGPL. share-alike definetly applies to the data (or we
should have the discussion if the result is collective or derivative DB)


michal



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