Tom

Isn’t the problem one of imports? The debate on importing 200M points would be 
entertaining.

Steve

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Tom Lee <t...@mapbox.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think I agree with everything but this - I still don’t think it’s good 
> > enough. Of course, I also want it to be better - but that cogent argument 
> > thing you mentioned is missing either way.
> 
> I and many others have been investing considerable energy into the 
> OpenAddresses project because of ambiguity surround ODbL's implications for 
> geocoding. OA is now over 200M address points collected from government 
> sources under open licenses; OSM currently has 56M features with 
> `addr:housenumber`.
> 
> Obviously, not all of those 200M points belong in OSM. But many of them do. 
> OpenAddresses does not have the toolchain or community needed to improve and 
> maintain that data. Ultimately, those datasets should enter a collaborative 
> space where they are accessible to and improvable by all. In the 
> not-too-distant future, I suspect I will need to adjust a point when the 
> local pizza place has their drone drop my order on the roof 
> <http://media.salon.com/2015/03/Screen-Shot-2015-03-11-at-10.59.45-AM-1280x808.png>.
>  I want to do that work once in OSM, not a hundred times in a hundred 
> different closed geo databases.
> 
> OSM is already good enough to make geocoding services better for many 
> geography types and locations. The plausible mechanism by which it becomes 
> self-sufficient and then great at geocoding is through network effects and 
> concrete needs, not through individual pizza purchasers complying with the 
> Terms of Service printed on the box containing their dinner. 
> 
> To me, this means making sure OSM-enabled geocoding services can be 
> constructed alongside proprietary data; and that their results can be used by 
> enough people to make the project's improvement matter to them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch 
> <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 12.10.2015 um 23:43 schrieb Mr. Stace D Maples:
>> ..
>> Neither of the projects was scrapped because we couldn’t use OSM for the 
>> project, but because we couldn’t determine IF WE COULD use OSM for our 
>> particular uses.
>> 
>> ...
> 
> And you or your legal department approached the licensor of the data and 
> asked for an opinion on your use of the data?
> 
> 
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