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> On 14 Mar 2016, at 15:20, Tom Lee <t...@mapbox.com> wrote:
> 
> I think this conversation is suffering from a few confusions. 
> 
> First, the EU Database Right and copyright are related but distinct. One or 
> both can apply to a work. From the ODbL: "Database Rights can apply even when 
> there is no copyright over the Database." German copyright's notion of 
> "fading" is interesting but as far as I know the primary documents of OSM are 
> built exclusively on EU and UK law (I could easily be mistaken about this!).
> 
> Second, the project license is a grant of rights *beyond* the rights 
> automatically conveyed by the Database Right and copyright.  Judgments about 
> the status of different classes of work may affect the limits of which rights 
> OSM can reserve, but they will generally not affect what rights it is able to 
> grant to users (or the terminology it selects for various concepts).
> 
> With all of that said, I think there's plenty of room for creating useful 
> guidelines on how to interpret the ODbL, so I would welcome the 
> clarifications that others have called for. But I tend to agree with others 
> on this thread that this ruling doesn't substantially change the legal 
> environment surrounding OSM licensing.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Tobias Wendorff 
>> <tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de> wrote:
>> Am So, 13.03.2016, 14:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>> >
>> > shouldn't this go further and include cases where the published result
>> > wasn't intended for the extraction of the original (or derived) data, but
>> > it was used to do it?
>> 
>> I don't think you can permit extraction of the data, since that's the
>> principe of share-alike?
>> 
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