btw tsvetan, a couple of other things:

1) your message has an implicit mocking tone of the business that we
are establishing, whereas you have an already-established business
that provides you with funds to create new boards and new products.

perhaps you could explain to the thousands of people on the
gpl-violations mailing list a) why you have raised an off-topic issue
and have criticised someone who is helping _you_ stay clear of gpl
violations b) what the purpose was for mocking someone who is
establishing a new business

2) as you have been on both the arm-netbooks mailing list and a member
of the sunxi community you will be aware of the efforts to coordinate
GPL compliance for allwinner and that because of the size of the
business that we are establishing we cannot take risks and so have had
to be very very strict.

you will therefore be aware that we put out a request to allwinner to
provide the NAND driver source code, and you will be aware that they
did in fact provide this (albeit not the exact same version because
they had to bypass the manager who is deliberately and constructively
interfering with the direct explicit orders of the Directors of
Allwinner to comply with the GPL).

you will also be aware that the A20 SDK provided boot0 and boot1
source code, and you will also be aware that we also made a request to
allwinner to provide this source code for boot0 and boot1 and they did
so (even though we didn't know it had already been put into the A20
SDK).

you will therefore be aware that in order to comply with the GPL you
will need to build and release *only* binaries that are built from GPL
sources, and as it is your business to sell hardware with GPL code,
you will also be aware that you need to *explicitly* provide that
exact source code.

so.

can you please answer the following questions:

1) where is the source - at what explicit link - can the kernel and
u-boot source be obtained from - which matches the binaries that you
have released.

2) does that source code include the GPL-compliant NAND driver code or
was it built from the GPL-violating libnand binary-only library?
please answer yes or no.

3) did you build the boot0 and boot1 from the A20 SDK source code.
please answer yes or no.

please remember that Allwinner's provision of non-GPL-compliant
binaries does not, under the GPL, exonerate you from also having to
comply with the GPL.

i went to a lot of trouble to help you and other businesses to obtain
GPL-compliant code and i do not appreciate you mocking our business on
public forums.  can i suggest you don't do that again?

l.



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM, luke.leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Tsvetan Usunov, OLIMEX Ltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear Luke
>> All sources which are used to build the images are linked to our Wiki, you
>> can try them yourself
>
>  do you have a link that you can provide - preferably on the forum as
> well - which answers the question that was asked?
>
>> All changes and patches are made available to Linux-Sunxi community
>
>  where are those changes and patches posted?  please advise where they
> are made available.
>
>> and they
>> are to be merged in Linux-Sunxi github account, as I wrote in the forum post
>
>  you wrote in the forum post "we are not releasing the patches", and
> avoided answering the question that was asked.
>
>  you've still avoided answering the question that was asked.
>
>  could you please answer the question and provide an explicit link to
> where the code can be downloaded from?
>
>  also can i suggest that in order to avoid this confusion that you
> explicitly link on this page here:
>  https://www.olimex.com/wiki/A20-OLinuXino-MICRO
>
>  to exactly and precisely where the source code may be obtained.
>
>  the reason why the question was asked on the forum is because you did
> not provide source code links on the page.
>
>  l.

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