I will add that they did claim a couple of routers did not have GPL code
and I was able to verify that they were correct in regards to those
cases(those particular ones appeared to run a vxworks based operating
system), however there were only a few routers that this was the case for.
Those routers are not in question but it is the ones with GPL code that are
and there are a very large amount of them. In my experience any router with
a firmware bin file greater than 2mb will run a linux based operating
system with very few exceptions. I have however done further analysis to
confirm that I am right about them running Linux.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:57 PM, James Hilliard
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I am absolutely sure these routers contain GPL code, It is quite simple to
> extract and analyze the firmware files myself and I have done so on a
> number of these routers. Linksys also has not disputed the fact that these
> routers do contain GPL code. They seem to all run a variant of the linux
> kernel, most if not all of the ones in question run version 2.4 in addition
> to numerous other GPL components usually. Linksys has even admitted that
> they have GPL code but still refuses to provide source code. This dd-wrt
> thread contains a number of the firmware files in question
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=145255 if anyone wants to
> analyze anything themselves. They are attempting to use the fact that these
> routers are EOL and not being sold anymore as some sort of GPL exception
> but they have provided firmware for these routers directly from their
> website up until a few days ago.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Jeroen Massar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-10-21 09:45, James Hilliard wrote:
>> > I sent a GPL request for router firmware I had downloaded from the
>> > linksys support website. Instead of providing source they have mass
>> > deleted older firmware from their website in an attempt to avoid
>> > providing source code. This has all happened within the last month.
>>
>> First note though that there are families of Cisco/Linksys models where
>> firmware does *NOT* contain any GPL.
>>
>> They are very aware of the 'dangers' of GPL and thus will act in as much
>> compliance as possible.
>>
>> If your model *does* contain GPL though (this should be verifiable by
>> extracting it and using strings upon it, checking the model number, etc
>> etc), I can only suggest to make the downloaded file available on the
>> Internet and provide the link with the full filename, model number and
>> further details available to this list; that way it will at least be
>> archived what this is about.
>>
>> Greets,
>>  Jeroen
>>
>>
>

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