On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:17, Ian Stirling <[email protected]> wrote:

Morning, Ian.

>> Unless Alice performs an act restricted by copyright, she does not require a 
>> licence, and I don't see transferring a product containing embedded software 
>> as an otherwise infringing act
> 
> This implies 'embedded' software has some special status in law

I don't think that this is the case: it implies that, before a licence is 
required, one perform an act restricted by copyright.

To my mind, "distribution", in the sense of me giving you a CD containing 
software, for example, is not an act restricted by copyright (at least, not in 
the UK; other laws may differ).

See, for example, s16, Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988:

> The owner of the copyright in a work has, in accordance with the following 
> provisions of this Chapter, the exclusive right to do the following acts in 
> the United Kingdom—
> 
> (a)to copy the work (see section 17);
> 
> (b)to issue copies of the work to the public (see section 18);
> 
> [F1(ba)to rent or lend the work to the public (see section 18A);]
> 
> (c)to perform, show or play the work in public (see section 19);
> 
> [F2(d)to communicate the work to the public (see section 20);]
> 
> (e)to make an adaptation of the work or do any of the above in relation to an 
> adaptation (see section 21);
> 
> and those acts are referred to in this Part as the “acts restricted by the 
> copyright”. 

(You can see the whole Act, although probably not in quite its latest form, 
here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/contents)

Alice has copied nothing, nor issued anything to the public (the manufacturer / 
initial distributor may well have done), rented/lent nothing, performed 
nothing, communicated nothing to the public, or made an adaptation.

She has simply sold on a vehicle containing software, just as I require no 
licence to give you my CD of "OK, Computer". Were I to *copy* my CD, and give 
you that copied CD, then I likely infringe copyright (16(a), 16(b)), but that's 
a different use case.

> the only one with any obligation is the original manufacturer

Not just the manufacturer, as they might be supplying on a wholesale basis, 
rather than retail, and arguably not then responsible for "issuing copies to 
the public" — the retailer might be responsible for doing that, and thus 
requiring a licence — but it does not follow that every action involving GPL'd 
software is subject to the terms of the GPL.

> I don't see any basis for this in what I know of copyright law.

Hopefully the above has helped a little, but feel free to shout (on here, or 
off list) if not.


Best wishes,

Neil

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Neil Brown
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