Hi again,

Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2014, 16:46:22 schrieb Marc Dietrich:
> Hi,
> 
> the Renault R-Link system
> (http://www.renault.com/en/pages/legalinformation.aspx) is a
> navigation/entertainment solution installed in many newer Renault cars. It
> is original developed by TomTom (www.tomtom.com) but distributed by
> Renault. The System is based on Android 2.2 and runs a linux kernel. I
> haven't analysed the bootloader yet, but other tomtom products use uboot.

I just want to inform you that things moved a bit in the mean time. I checked 
yesterday the TomTom site (www.tomtom.com/gpl) and found a source code release 
named version tt146818! AFAICT, it contains all (L)GPL'd programs.

Some issues still persist: 
 * The released version tt146818 is dated from January, this year. Since then, 
several new versions have been released. Also there is no source for the older 
released versions (more than 10 or so). While not all versions may contain 
changed the GPL'd software, I know that at least the kernel was updated 
several times. I know this might be a problem for many applications, not only 
R-Link/TomTom/Renault.
 * Since this a an omap embedded board, there should be some first stage 
bootloader (the 2nd stage is uboot). The first stage bootloader is usually 
also uboot, in a very stripped down version, but there is no source for it 
released. While it's possible that there is something else (or maybe the 2nd 
stage contains the 1st stage), I doubt this. On the other hand I also cannot 
prove it, because I have no binaries for the bootloader(s) yet.

Ok, that's all I found so far. I like to express my thanks to all people who 
helped in this case. It also shows that with some public pressure, certain 
companies can be convinced to release the source code of the GPL'd software 
they make money with.

Marc

> 
> You can download  a copy of their filesystem from
> http://download.tomtom.com/sweet/navcore/system-update_1467818_all.ttpkg
> which can be converted to a regular tar archive by this small bash script
> (you need a recent dd version for this)
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> while :; do
>    dd conv=notrunc bs=102400 iflag=skip_bytes,fullblock \
>        oflag=append skip=20 count=1 2>&1 >&3 | grep 0+1 && break
> done < <(tail -c +9 system-update_1467818_all.ttpkg) 3>&1 | tail -c +55 >
> system-update_1467818_all.tar
> 
> I ask tomtom first because the "copyright" app shows an offer by tomtom to
> deliver the source, but they said that Renault is responsible (which is ok I
> think because they distribute it).
> 
> So I ask Renault Deutschland (where I got the car from) and they refused
> saying they can't do it. Translated response:
> 
> "Dear Mr. Dietrich,
> 
> after internal review of your request we can tell you that we as Renault
> Deutschland AG can't help you, that means we can neither correct the license
> text, nor we can supply the source code."
> 
> [...]
> 
>    Renault Deutschland AG
> 
> [...]
> "
> 
> I wrote a letter to the FSF explaining the situation and I'm waiting now for
> an answer. Is there anything more I can do?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Marc

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