Mark:
> > >Let's not forget that both Turkey and Japan were imperialist nations in
> > >their heyday -- I'm getting a little tired of "white feminist" bashing
> > >on the list.
> > >
> > >katha
> >
>
>What she means is "white American patriotic feminist" bashing. Doesn't this
>just illustrate the complete pointlessness of debating people like Pollitt:
>the only question is, how on earth have we collectively sunk so low that
>someone with this kind of abject chauvinist politics and absurd,
>mystificatory "feminism", can cheerfully inhabit a list called 'marxism
>feminism" without any obvious sense of irony or contradiction? But when I
>tried to argue along these lines on m-fem, the only response I got was to be
>told to shut up by the moderators, Carrol Cox and Malgosia Askanas (the
>latter's connection to Marxism is still more tenuous than Pollitt's).
The point of sharing an e-list with folks like Katha, as I see it, is
not really to debate them, but to use their remarks as occasions for
sharing our knowledge with other subscribers who may not be Marxists
yet but have not been indoctrinated into liberalism either.
>What is the point of these circular discussions? It is a medieval definition
>of Hell, the endless repetition of tasks which have lost all meaning.
You know that we all have to endure the eternal return of the same
until we win in the real world, not on e-lists!
Yoshie
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