Is it the militarization of socialist society that has ultimately led to
problems, or the continuation of commodity production under the same
pressures that forced socialists to militarize?

And is there a distinction to be drawn between militarization of society
and military action in a liberation struggle?


At 12:55 PM 3/26/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Some of the list members here have expressed, in the past at least, a
belief that an
>overwhelming majority of the popular revolutions of the last 150 years
(give or take)
>have been decimated by their own militarisation. At this point, so goes
the argument,
>the revolution no longer has the input (and indeed the righteousness) that
comes with
>mass democracy. Miltarisation kills the revolution, so it goes.
>
>The question then surely becomes one of the state itself. Is not the state
composed
>of what Lenin quoted Engels "several bodies of armed men, prisons, etc?".
Such a
>statement is fairly succinct, and it would seem to me, irrefutable. And a
process of
>making a revolution ultimately *will* confront the armed military response
of the
>bourgeoisie. So, in today's struggles- and nothing else really should be
of our
>concern- is their any logic to descriptions of radically transformed
relations
>without a military input- one we can and should abhor, but also resign to the
>inevitable?
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