Comrades and friends, This interview was arranged with a news agency that has direct relationship with the Argentinean rebel unions. BUENOS AIRES, 9(PSI).- "WE BUY EVERY RECIPE ABROAD" (An interview with Jorge Enea Spilimbergo by Lilian Katzelis). I had a conversation with Jorge Enea Spilimbergo, a sharp observer of the historic development of our country, during some grey afternoon in March, at a corner in the Southern area of the town When one analyzes the current political map, believes Spilimbergo, with an increasing variety of diversified actors, a weak government, a diminished state, a growth in the size of the excluded masses, and vacant banners, it is dangerous to speak of the decline in the concept of nation-state, because this allows, by implication, to believe that the nation-state is already over. "The problem with this -he states- is that this notion is shared by the multinationals and other supranational mechanisms: but none of these institutions elliminates the nation- states of the wealthy countries. What we are facing is an attempt at elliminating the defensive capacities of the peripheric countries". Absence of leaders. Notoriously concerned, Spilimbergo adds: “Ïn our country, we have a spectacular lack of protection, because the system of the political establishment has bought the recipe abroad; Radicals and the Frepaso, in the Alliance, as well as Menemists and the remaining variants of the Justicialist Party. What we are facing is, somehow, an acephaly of the leadership, and this is what makes it more necessary than ever to rebuild an axis that can serve as a rallying point, an axis that is not just a new version of the same thing". Spilimbergo believes that the challenges generated by the current situation of social and political calamity well out from struggle and active resistence: “There is a resistence, among the rebel unions, on economic issues, but it has not reached a political projection that can, additionally, integrate the Nation as a whole”. His gaze wanders along the trails of our path, and he refers now to he projects of power centralized in Buenos Aires as an attempt o establish a rift with the main cities in the Inland country. Spilimbergo emarks that "the problem does not lie in _where_ the nerve center of power is located, but in what is the contents of its policies. For instance, in Argentina, 1820, the Tratado del Cuadrilátero expressed, mainly, the riverine provinces, who had points in common and divergences both with the port of Buenos Aires and the mediterranean Inland country. Later on, the generation of the 80s attempted to build a national state, or to turn it stronger, but at a time when the British imperialism had launched a great offensive. Thus, the positions that might contain progressive sides were limited by the invasion of British capital. In the end, we made all that we could do”. Back to present, and taking it by assault, Spilimbergo points out that now we have some kind of "defensive federalism", where Governors act as mediatiors: "Somehow, they are local agents in front of a central power that makes the rules", he adds. -You mean that they are mediators with the central power and, at the same time, they are representatives of people? -No. They just pretend to have some influence which they don't. With a deep breath, and without any pretension to futurology, our host tries to analyze the current trends, and comments: “As to the future of our country, I believe that we shall have a strong tendency towards a popular rebellion. The problem lies in whether this rebellion can be organized in the best possible way, with a political project. If the regime of Fernando de la Rúa fails, there won't exist any reshuffling in policies. Because, who should come in his stead? The military? In my opinion they are not ready for use. In the end, and without a shred of pity for them, they are victims of a system too, a system which uses them and presses them as a lemon, and after that blames them for everything. That is why the important task now is to gather momentum and to build a popular political power, based on social struggle: I don't have the slightest shade of doubt that we shall be facing very hard times”. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international