I like that joke! :-) On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, I feel like the Rabbi in the following joke: > > You are talking way above my head, I'll study this thread and > try to come up with something to contribute. In the mean time, enjoy. > > http://www.awordinyoureye.com/jokes83rdset.html > > (#1705) The Pope and the Rabbi [Author unknown] Several centuries ago, the > Pope > decreed that all the Jews had to convert or leave Italy. There was a huge > outcry > from the Jewish community, so the Pope offered a deal. He would have a > religious > debate with the leader of the Jewish community. If the Jews won, they could > stay > in Italy, if the Pope won, they would have to leave. The Jewish people met > and > picked an aged but wise Rabbi Moshe, to represent them in the debate. However, > as Moshe spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that > it > would be a "silent" debate. On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moshe sat > opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and > showed > three fingers. Rabbi Moshe looked back and raised one finger. Next the Pope > waved his finger around his head. Rabbi Moshe pointed to the ground where he > sat. The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Rabbi > Moshe pulled out an apple. With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he > was > beaten, that Rabbi Moshe was too clever and that the Jews could stay. Later, > the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The Pope said, > "First > I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. He responded by holding up > one > finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our > beliefs. > Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us. He responded > by > pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us. I pulled > out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us of all our sins. He pulled > out an apple to remind me of the original sin. He had me beaten and I could > not > continue." Meanwhile the Jewish community were gathered around Rabbi Moshe. > "How > did you win the debate?" they asked. "I haven't a clue," said Moshe. "First > he > said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I said to him, ‘up > yours!’ Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I > said to him, we're staying right here." "And then what," asked a woman. "Who > knows?" said Moshe, "He took out his lunch so I took out mine." > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Seth Johnson <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Seth Johnson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Okay, I think I have a sense of where you're situated. What do those 5 key >>>> components of the address represent? >>> >>> They are a set of child indexes 0-5-0-0-1 >> >> >> Are you actually doing state transition management with persistent objects >> like what Eoin pointed to re Rich Hickey? Hickey stores the "diffs" between >> instances of unique "values" under one "identity" (his special way of >> thinking >> of variables/data structures) over time, as tree chains like this, holding >> just the part of the structure that has changed. This lets him treat >> "values" >> as "the whole structure at a moment of time," which is a useful concept in a >> concurrent execution environment, rather than using traditional data >> structures whose individual pieces of data could be changed independently by >> different processes. Rather than copying the whole structure, he virtualizes >> distinct value instances by pointing at "diff" chains like yours for the part >> that has changed, plus a pointer to the rest of the original structure that >> hasn't changed. >> >> In any case, key chains like you use could be stored like any other tree in >> my >> architecture. That could become an implementation of unique values under >> identity a la Hickey, I guess. >> >> I made my system open to diverse blocking approaches -- I'm trying to >> remember, but mostly all I recall clearly is that you request "occasions" >> from >> the authoritative host servers of the state in which you're working -- and I >> didn't design it as a way to hold outlines as snapshots in time, as part of >> an >> approach to concurrent execution in a particular way like Hickey does. (My >> focus tends to be more on generality than "containment.") >> >> Seth >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "leo-editor" group. To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. For more options, visit this group >> at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "leo-editor" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en. >
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