p.gnx is not currently writable, would it be a big
deal to make it writeable? If not globally, for
@auto tree nodes?

Thanks,
Kent

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Kent Tenney <kten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The version I'm developing on is using a back end with a bunch of 
>> dependencies, but I'll see about simplifying it, Sqlalchemy + sqlite should 
>> be sufficient. (someone with sql chops could eliminate sqlalchemy)
>>
>> Dang, I've been testing choices development with regular nodes, but day to 
>> day I'm always working in <@auto somefile.py> trees, and gnx is ephemeral. 
>> Maybe a hash of UNL would work for primary key instead of gnx
>  ...
>
> Interesting coincidence of several recent trains of thought:
>
> 1. Recently I removed almost all clones from leoProjects.txt and
> leoNotes.txt.  You could call it a matter of housekeeping, but I'm
> moving towards a workflow in which clones exist only until a project
> is done.  So they are becoming more ephemeral.
>
> 2. ArmageDOOM mentioned this link on #leo:
>  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7511979
>
> One of the comments was that Leo's file format "hadn't taken off".
> Without gnx's, Leo's external files would be identical (or nearly so)
> with org mode.  No, this doesn't really make @auto processing any
> easier, because even org mode sentinels will be unacceptable to most
> non-Leonine users.
>
> 3.  I recently realized that clones are a bit of a nuisance for
> find/change.  The more clones I have, the more duplicates there are
> when using F3 (find-next)
>
> For all these reasons, I am beginning to wonder whether clones can
> somehow be put a little more behind the scenes.
>
> To be sure, clones (vnodes) are likely always to exist as a basic
> capability, but if clones can be made just slightly more "ephemeral"
> then gnx's might not be needed in external files.  For example, I
> wonder whether my work flow could be based on a combination of Terry's
> bookmarks and (perhaps) automatically generated (and thus more
> ephemeral) clones.
>
> In this context, your comments about hashing the UNL fits right into
> the zeitgeist.  Bookmarks are, iirc, just unl's...
>
> In short, this could be an important new direction for Leo.  No, we
> aren't going to get rid of clones.  No, we aren't going to get rid of
> sentinels.  But there might be important benefits if we can convert
> sentinels to org-mode format, and if we can make clones more of the
> plumbing than the porcelain (to use git terminology).
>
> In short, it looks like you are leading the way again, Kent.
>
> Edward
>
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