*TLDR; If LeoInteg is what brings Leo to the masses, more power to you and Felix and everyone else who gets to experience the wonder of Leo. But lets keep things factual and objective and keep the editor age-discrimination to a minimum, that's not why we're here.*
These two videos are not a good comparison. They show two different features, tree-based editing vs settings. First off, vscode's settings system is pretty slick, but emacs has had *literally the exact same feature* since at least the year 2000 <https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs-20.7/html_node/emacs_437.html> (I didn't look farther back than that); it's called *customize-apropos*. So let's not pat them on the back for re-implementing a 20+ year-old feature from emacs and then provide it as a reason why emacs is "on the way out". In addition, org-mode will never be as good at tree/graph based editing as Leo is, but that is because that is specifically what Leo is best at. Tangling in emacs is pretty clunky, but It's still better than almost everything else which has no tree-based editing. If you want to organize code as trees/graphs you have *very few* options, org-mode happens to be one of them. The soothsayers have been predicting emacs' death for a while now. Based on my investigations, emacs was never popular to begin with. I've heard it was once "far more popular" than it is now, but it never reach the popularity of a Borland or Microsoft product, or Eclipse. It never made its way out of the shadows. But everyone here (in the shadows) know *how little that means. * Emacs is niche. It appeals to "configuration nuts" who, once they get a taste for how much it can do out of the box and how much it can be configured tend to get hooked on it. I think Leo appeals to a similar audience. Each have a unique set of features that some find too good to pass up for more popular editors. I work in a bandwidth constrained environment where usually the only tolerable editors are text only through ssh in a terminal. vim and emacs fall into that category, emacs having way more features. emacs, to this day, has most features available in terminal mode. This gives me a snappy, feature-filled editor that is available on most systems. Few full-featured editor-IDEs maintain terminal support. Vscode never will. I also share some of the caution that others here have expressed about vscode's affiliation with Microsoft. Modern corporate capitalism hasn't proven itself to be a friend of humanity. On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 7:47:58 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > Imo, this video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PJjP0nE98&t=233s> > shows why some many people are excited about vs code. > > The video demonstrates the Prettier plugin, and along the way demos vs > code's superb configuration system. There is *so* much to like about vs > code! > > In contrast, this video > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQe1ul51RM0>laboriously > shows how to Leonize a file using emacs org mode. It's pretty lame :-) Imo, > emacs is on it's way out, and leoInteg will speed it along it's way :-) > > Edward > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/86a4947e-f98c-4615-a261-4fca949e032an%40googlegroups.com.
