Dreamstime has a page on license terms, and it has this section that seems as if it might apply -
"Limited Royalty Free Licenses (RF-LL) for using Media downloaded within the Free section of the website Dreamstime offers a free section, fully searchable and constantly updated. Its use may be available to all registered users or to a specific niche of members, depending on the agency`s strategy. The Media downloaded from the free section <https://www.dreamstime.com/free-photos> may be used under the terms mentioned for the regular Royalty Free license, with additional restrictions: the maximum amount of physical copies in any form is limited to 10,000 copies and the license granted is valid for 6 (six) months after the initial download for unsubscribed members or 6 (six) months after your Dreamstime download subscription ends. If you exceed the 10,000 print amount and you already purchased credits or a commercial subscription you may re-download the Media under the regular RF license." In the section on the "Regular Royality Free license: "For Web use, you must not use the Media at a width exceeding 1080 pixels unless it is included in your site`s design." The actual image is labeled "ROYALTY-FREE STOCK PHOTO" It does include a watermark. However, the terms of use page also says: "The Royalty-Free license is granted ONLY for the non-watermarked Media you buy using the Download button; all the other versions (small watermarked and non-watermarked thumbnails which are visible on the public site) are entirely copyrighted." The image in question is a small watermarked version, I can't figure out how that fits in. On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 7:27:43 PM UTC-5 gates...@gmail.com wrote: > Searching this group for 'Dreamstime' brings up conversations in 2013 and > 2014 about this logo. "Royalty free" doesn't indicate free use -- it > indicates that the image is able to be used without royalties, once a > proper license has been purchased. I imagine that would entail a > Dreamstime subscription, or a one-time purchase. > > Jake > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:24 PM Jacob Peck <gates...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It appears the original is from Dreamstime: >> https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-tribal-lion-image3490018 >> >> They've changed their watermark in the interim -- the new watermark has >> the spiral still, but smaller. It also appears the original had red eyes, >> which were probably edited out in the current Leo splash screen. >> >> IIRC this image used to cost money -- I don't know what the 'Free >> Download' entitles one to legally, but this image is clearly under some >> sort of license that it's probably wise to look into in some way :) >> >> Jake >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:12 PM Edward K. Ream <edre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 5:08 PM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> FWIW, it has always seemed slightly shady to me that the Leo >>>> 'splashscreen.xxx" graphic, >>>> both on Leo's startup itself and now on the Wikipedia page, has some >>>> sort of watermark on it. >>>> >>> >>> I never noticed this before, but I do see it. >>> >>>> I always thought it was a light grey '(c)' mark, but having looked >>>> harder >>>> I now think it is a coarse spiral. >>>> >>> >>> I agree. It doesn't seem to be any kind of copyright symbol. >>> >>> It seems to me that this mark was intended >>>> to prevent use elsewhere; I think the copyright of that image, and the >>>> license to copy >>>> and distribute it, should be checked. >>>> >>> >>> I don't remember where I got this image. I don't think it was >>> copyrighted, and I don't think it's worth worrying about. >>> >>> Let me know if you discover if it definitely *is* copyrighted :-) >>> >>> Edward >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "leo-editor" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to leo-editor+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS326CEe593Lqak63ih1828LOBaYjafVTii-WYLpeMNmPw%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS326CEe593Lqak63ih1828LOBaYjafVTii-WYLpeMNmPw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/6f6f17cd-dc81-400c-904f-d0b468a36c2dn%40googlegroups.com.