correction to part of what I wrote:

   - I have lost the bindings:
       M    body: End           crisp_end
*       M    body: Home          crisp_home*

On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 8:28:25 PM UTC+1 jkn wrote:

> Hi All (and welcome back, Edward!).
>
> I have muttered about this before but now think I have a concrete example 
> to show. The behaviour of defined commands seems to change according to 
> outline being edited...
>
> Here are some step to reproduce.
>
> 1) my myleosettings.leo has some @command nodes, and some @shortcut nodes 
> to define the keystrokes for these commands.
>
> 1a) you can sort-of see the effects of these by entering 'show-bindings' 
> in the minibuffer. An extract of the output of this (when a normal outline, 
> with no shortcut or commands, is being edited) is:
>
> Plain keys...
> M    body: End           crisp_end
> M    tree: End           end-of-line
> M    body: Home          crisp_home
> M    tree: Home          back-to-home
> M    body: Insert        paste-text
> M    tree: Insert        insert-node
> F     all: Keypad++      crispKeypadPlus
> F     all: Keypad+-      crispKeypadMinus
>
> 1c) The 'F' denotation seems a bit odd here; it is supposed to mean 
> 'defined in the loaded .leo file'. In fact, this is not true, all of these 
> are defined in myleosettings.leo
>
> 1d) The difference seems to be that the two 'F' commands are defined like
>
>     @command crispKeypadPlus @key=Keypad+plus
>         ...
>     @command crispKeypadMinus @key=Keypad+minus
>         ...
>
> however this is a minor bug I think (although it confused me a bit)
>
> 2) if, however, I then create a new outline, the bindings in 
> myleosettings.leo do not seem to be correctly applied. I would expect all 
> of the above to be in place; however 'show-bindings' when editing the new 
> outline gives (again, extracted)
>
> M    tree: End           end-of-line
> M    tree: Home          back-to-home
> M    body: Insert        paste-text
> M    tree: Insert        insert-node
> D     all: Keypad++      crispKeypadPlus
> D     all: Keypad+-      crispKeypadMinus
>
> That is:
>
>    - the bindings previous mis-denoted as 'F' are now mis-denoted as 'D' !
>    - I have lost the bindings:
>        M    body: End           crisp_end
>        M    tree: End           end-of-line
>
> 3) I have just now loaded an existing outline (ie. as well as the other 
> outlines_, and now both this outline, and the 'new' outline, which was 
> previously misbehaving, show the original correct bindings (albeit with the 
> 'F' not 'M' buglet):
>
> M    body: End           crisp_end
> M    tree: End           end-of-line
> M    body: Home          crisp_home
> M    tree: Home          back-to-home
> M    body: Insert        paste-text
> M    tree: Insert        insert-node
> F     all: Keypad++      crispKeypadPlus
> F     all: Keypad+-      crispKeypadMinus
>
> I'm not misunderstanding things here, am I? With no @settings in an 
> outline, or when creating a new outline, the bindings in myleosettings.leo 
> should be the same across outlines?
>
> Puzzling...
>
>     J^n
>
>
>
>
>
>

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