I see. At startup, the VR/VR3 panes aren't populated so you only see the 
three. If you open VR/VR3, they will open in those pane positions.

The layout names were created when this layout system was being finalized a 
year or two ago. Naming the layouts turned out to be hard.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 10:53:44 PM UTC-4 brian wrote:

> That was it.  Thank you.  When I ran "help-for-layouts," I 
> saw vertical-thirds with VR and VR3 panels on right and didn't think this 
> is what wanted.  The name "thirds" threw me off.   
>
> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 9:51:35 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> That is "vertical-thirds". Put a node into your myLeoSettings.leo outline 
>> with this headline:
>>
>> @string qt-layout-name = vertical-thirds
>>
>> This will become the default layout. The actual name of this layout as it 
>> would be used in a script is " layout-vertical-thirds". That's a layout 
>> name, not the name of a script that arranges the panes.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 9:42:05 PM UTC-4 brian wrote:
>>
>>> How do set vertical layout by default?  
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get the default behavior to be the state when I click: 
>>> window -> Vertical-Window_Layout.  
>>>
>>> It seems the layout changed when upgraded to version 6.8.6.1.   
>>>
>>> In myleosettings.leo, I tried in tried @string qt-layout-name but there 
>>> is not a solely vertical option.  I tried a bunch of other options like 
>>> adding @script in a Startup node that runs the command 
>>> c.executeMinibufferCommand('vertical-window-layout').  I also played with 
>>> plugins but I could get to work.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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