Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> My *real* preference would be for the system to automatically make a
> new group with the same name as the user if -g is not specified and
> use that.  I think that's how RedHat does it.

Same here: don't have one huge group for all users; give each user their
own group.

I *thought* this used to be the default.  But it may be that all the
users I've ever created for people (instead of packages or daemons) had
already had their group created first, so the useradd that I ran had -g
specified.  I don't know for sure.

> It would seem to me that assumptions are being made that are not 
> valid for most systems.  My "mailbox" is in ~/.mozilla.

Well, I don't know about "most" systems.  I suspect that my systems, for
example, are really set up quite differently than a lot of PLD users'
systems are.  One box has users' mailboxes in ~/Maildir (which is likely
not the default mailbox file, since it's a directory...), and the other
system has my user's "mailbox" in ~/.thunderbird (like yours).  No other
users get mail on the second box.

And *none* of the package users (let alone low-privilege daemon users!)
had better *ever* get a mailbox...  ;-)

In other words, those assumptions are not valid for any of my users.
But maybe they're valid for PLD's default setup, and maybe that's why
the maintainer did this?  In any case, I'd say there's still a problem
there for us.  Not sure how to fix it; should we go spelunking into the
shadow code and come up with a patch?  Or can the /etc/defaults/useradd
file be sed'ed to turn this stuff off?

(Or do we need to go spelunking in the code to find out how the useradd
file can be set up, since I can't find a manpage?  ;-))

> Make the default /home.

Agreed; /home/users just seems like a pointless extra directory to me.
What else could ever be in /home?

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