augustin wrote: > Why two BLFS books? As Emanuele pointed out, systemd belongs more to > LFS than to BLFS.
I thought it was clear from what I said - sorry if that's not the case - but it seems you haven't noticed that there are two LFS books as well. One simply chooses the BLFS book that match the LFS (s)he followed in the first place. > We should: > > - dedicate a whole section within LFS to introduce and discuss the > choice of init frameworks. A rather delicate task. Maybe a link to http://boycottsystemd.org/ would cut it. :grin: > We could: > > - probably offer a choice to the reader about which init framework to > install. If so, subsequent sections in both LFS and BLFS would have > conditional sub- sections to follow or not depending on the choice > made by the user. This is exactly the current situation. systemd is too invasive to have just different subsections, we have different whole books instead. > - alternatively, consider whether to continue giving install > instructions for sysvinit. That legacy framework is definitely passé > and being discontinued by all distributions, so why keep it? It's definitely not. And as Kenneth Harrison said, an interesting alternative (runit) is currently in the works (thank you guys, can't wait to try it, and maybe s6 too). > - accordingly, consider to give the choice between upstart and > systemd, or simply offer systemd only. My understanding is that upstart is pretty much dead, with Ubuntu planning to replace it. And systemd infecting Debian is the main reason why I switched to Gentoo, and now LFS. systemd is diametrically opposite to the LFS philosophy: LFS is about putting the user in charge and exposing the inner workings of the system, systemd is about providing an opaque layer that takes choice away from the user. It MAY be a reasonable choice for some "user-friendly" distro, but IMO it's out of place here. Bruce Dubbs wrote: > systemd is a cancer that infiltrates everything. I'm happy to hear that from you :) -- Emanuele Rusconi -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
