Great posts by Jake and Danny. Jake wrote: > I think it is more than one thing - so in some cases, it is a matter of simply > ignoring the facts; try talking to people about NSA Warrantless wiretaping > program and > the data (which by the way, I'm confident has been used in the WikiLeaks > investigation) produced by it of US citizens on US soil. Eyes will glaze over > and > people will simply refuse to discuss it. Quite depressing. In some cases, I > agree that > even if we know that is/has/will/etc happen - some people don't really > understand the > magnitude of the surveillance state.
For anyone interested and with an extra almost three hours to kill, there was a significant court hearing on Friday in Jewel v. NSA. It was video'd under an experimental pilot program, the video is at http://www.uscourts.gov/Multimedia/Cameras/NorthernDistrictofCalifornia.aspx?video_uuid=tg d2h877&categoryId=48197%20 Sadly, a proprietary format that won't play well with Linux. -- James S. Tyre Law Offices of James S. Tyre 10736 Jefferson Blvd., #512 Culver City, CA 90230-4969 310-839-4114/310-839-4602(fax) jst...@jstyre.com Policy Fellow, Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech