Thanks Jacob, How do you consider Adams concerns about Jitsi?
Brian On Dec 21, 2012 8:24 PM, "Jacob Appelbaum" <ja...@appelbaum.net> wrote: > Brian Conley: > > So I guess the question is, is there a more/similarly convenient > > video/audio chatting tool that can be advocated as a standard? > > > > Jitsi? > > > Skype is a problem, hands down. But people will continue to use it, > > particularly in situations they see as nonthreatening (rightly and > wrongly) > > because it is convenient and maintains weight in the marketplace. > > > > People will continue to use it as long as this community and others > accepts it as a reasonable tool. It isn't a reasonable tool and we > should warn people not to use it. We should rather encourage them to use > open and standard protocol, as well as to use FLOSS implementations. > > > This is a long way of asking, is Goohke Hangout functionally better? Is > > anything else? Or, how do we get someone to develop a convenient p2p > > chatting tool that is also pleasurable to use? > > Jitsi is likely better for a lot of stuff. It is written in Java (yay no > programmer introduced buffer overflows, boo java, boo java), it has OTR > for chatting and ZRTP for VoIP calls. It does this with standard > jabber/xmpp accounts. Users can download it over HTTPS and I believe the > cert may be pinned now in Google Chrome. It isn't perfect but if I had > to choose between it and Skype, I guess I'd not have a lot of trouble > making the choice of using Jitsi. > > All the best, > Jake > > > > > B > > On Dec 21, 2012 6:07 AM, "Jacob Appelbaum" <ja...@appelbaum.net> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> In light of the recent thread on journalism, I wanted to share this link > >> about Skype: > >> > >> > >> > >> > https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2012/dec/china-listening-skype-microsoft-assumes-you-approve > >> > >> "With 250 million monthly connected users, Skype is one of the most > >> popular services for making phone calls as well as chatting over the > >> Internet. If you have friends, family or business contacts abroad, > >> chances are you are using Skype to keep in contact. Having said that, > >> you are probably not aware that all your phone calls and text chats can > >> be monitored by the censorship authorities in China. And if you are > >> aware, chances are that you do not consent to such surveillence. > >> Microsoft, however, assumes that you do consent, as expressed in their > >> Privacy Policy: > >> > >> "Skype, Skype's local partner, or the operator or company facilitating > >> your communication may provide personal data, communications content > >> and/or traffic data to an appropriate judicial, law enforcement or > >> government authority lawfully requesting such information. Skype will > >> provide reasonable assistance and information to fulfill this request > >> and you hereby consent to such disclosure. > >> > >> All the best, > >> Jacob > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >
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