When I say million, I always mean billion... On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Adam Fisk <a...@bravenewsoftware.org> wrote: > At the risk of getting swept up in this by consciously saying something > unpopular, I want to put my shoulder against the wheel of the "open source > process produces more secure software" machine. The reasons for software > licensing are complex, as we all know, but I'm certainly more confident in > the overall security of silent circle in its first release than I was in the > overall security of cryptocat 1. Why? Because there are much more > experienced people involved (not meant as a jab Nadim - PZ had about a 25 > year head start if not more) and also because they have judiciously sought > the review of experts prior to release. If you have to choose between open > and closed in terms of the potential for building a secure architecture, of > course open is overall better, but there are many other factors at play, > including the resources and expertise an organization is able to devote to > the problem. Apple, for example, has an overall great security track record, > with most of that code closed source. Having $100 million in the bank helps. > A lot. It helps a lot more than the license. In fact the overall number of > eyes on the code is likely the more relevant factor - the precise area where > open source ostensibly scores such a resounding victory, but only if in fact > more experienced eyes review the code than they do comparable closed source > systems. > > It just seems healthier to recognize this is a complex issue, and I don't > think reducing it to open versus closed source does that complexity justice. > > -Adam > > > On Wednesday, February 6, 2013, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: >> >> What I'm trying to point out is that Silent Circle can call itself a >> super-group creating unbreakable encryption, market closed-source software >> towards activists, and some experts will still speak out for them >> favourably. >> >> >> NK >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Brian Conley <bri...@smallworldnews.tv> >> wrote: >>> >>> C'mon Nadim, that's a bit of a cheap shot, no? Do you disagree >>> fundamentally with anything he said there? >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 19:56, Nadim Kobeissi <na...@nadim.cc> wrote: >>> >>> Chris Soghoian gives Silent Circle's unbreakable encryption an entire >>> article's worth of lip service here, it must be really unbreakable: >>> >>> http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/6/3950664/phil-zimmermann-wants-to-save-you-from-your-phone >>> >>> >>> NK >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Brian Conley <bri...@smallworldnews.tv> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I heard they have a super secret crypto clubhouse in the belly of an >>>> extinct volcano. >>>> >>>> Other rumors suggest they built their lab in the liberated tunnels >>>> beneath bin ladens secret lair in Pakistan... >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 19:42, Nadim Kobeissi <na...@nadim.cc> wrote: >>>> >>>> Actual headline. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/147714-cryptography-super-group-creates-unbreakable-encryption-designed-for-mass-market >>>> >>>> >>>> NK >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile
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