Griffin Boyce:
> Jacob Appelbaum <ja...@appelbaum.net> wrote:
> 
>> When people ask how secure BBIM is - I suppose we can now cite RIM's
>> official documentation on the topic - without a BES server, it's
>> encrypted with a key that is embedded in all handsets.
>>
> 
>   This was critical in the London Riots case back in 2011.  As most people
> on this list know, building in the ability to decrypt *some* users means
> that they can decrypt *all* users.  Which is basically what happened [1].
> 
> Surely someone has already extracted this Triple DES 168-bit key, right?
> 
> 
>   Yep, though you may not even need it if you use another Blackberry device
> (and not, say, a laptop).  A Blackberry device can spoof the PIN of another
> and read all of its messages.  It's been a bit of a controversial topic for
> a few years now, as you might imagine.
> 
>   BBM is perhaps *slightly* more secure than plain email or SMS, but users
> aren't protected in case of government interest or vindictive exes.
> 
> best,
> Griffin Boyce
> 
> [1]
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/15/mi5-social-messaging-riot-organisers-police
> 

Blackberry secures the connection if other firms want to get your data.
If the government wants it then you should better use open source
encrypted  Hardware.
I have been a BB user for years, but there are some mail accounts that
are only used on my Laptop, not on the BB.

Andreas

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