-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Andrea for answering my questions.
So regarding the cost its due to the extra PVA bypass, which the "follower merchants" charge for..I wonder if there is any connection between these merchants and botnets? Botnet owners or spammers would seem like a great source of "valid" IDs. I wonder if "limit" in tracing fake followers is useful for something else other than zombie accounts... thanks again. On 3 Jun 2013, at 21:11, Andrea St wrote: > Hi all, > and thank for the questions. > > On twitter you need to bypass captcha, buy a "black software" > (botnets), buy premium proxy address. > > On facebook you need to bypass captcha, buy a "black software", buy > premium proxy address , pva bypasser (phone verification code) and > verified email. > > -- > > About Mercedes Benz and others brand i don't know what people think > about but this is a good question and if there are any sociologists > here, please ping us! > > > -- > > Impossible to prove if X bought fake followers and this is the main > reason because people do it. > > 2013/6/3 Bernard Tyers <ei8...@ei8fdb.org>: >> Hello Andrea, >> >> Thanks for sending the presentation. Very interesting. >> >> I have a few questions: >> >> - how did you calculate the "variable cost" for creating a Twitter account >> and a Facebook account? >> - why the difference in cost of creation of each? (Maybe I am missing >> something obvious...) >> - is it possible to quantify the negative effect of a popular twitter >> account (ending Mercedes Benz, or some celebrity) being exposed as buying >> followers? (i.e.: does anyone care?) >> - what do you think it the affect is on the reputation of the account owner? >> Is it possible to prove a user did not buy followers? As in, is it possible >> to prove someone else bought the followers for another account? >> >> Thanks very much! >> >> Bernard >> >> >> >> Andrea St <and...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> Two weeks ago we presented at Nexa For Internet & Society our Research >>> about Twitter and underground market. >>> Now you can download here: >>> http://nexa.polito.it/nexacenterfiles/lunch-11-de_micheli-stroppa.pdf >>> >>> >>> Our research on Nyt part1: >>> >>> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/fake-twitter-followers-becomes-multimillion-dollar-business/ >>> Our research on Nyt part2 : >>> >>> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/researchers-call-out-twitter-celebrities-with-suspicious-followings/ >>> >>> Now we're working on Facebook. If you have any idea or you would like >>> to get in touch my >>> email is: and...@gmail.com >>> >>> Best, >>> A >> >> >> Sent from my tiny electronic gadget. Please excuse my brevity and (probable) >> spelling mistakes. >> >> -- >> Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by >> emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > -- > Andrea Stroppa > http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa > @andst7 > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech - -------------------------------------- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRrieGAAoJENsz1IO7MIrreV0IAJjamQcxspvyGoaw0ZeR48gi FkucjdJAuoIKjs2l/TRtuaPnNonrsEk+jEipCQcn7zIzv+rYge4o3pBCgp+k06o0 V69gtB9pN3zbj74vqc964XW5W96So+kkk+pCYVwSM/uuY2QyBO/oaKYUBs/BUIs9 NDMdSkKKDAhpaoMWxSN1+aIKRHY2qWOIdzB9uHlIIyZsArwtUG9igbIOvjBDYGJl WZ8orR/B2XfKh4pG9eV36aBzr2rsx7JDbXVgFh/tY8mDpx3GryHsOGpdtOAiQWIw 8FpTlgkQHm3ed7+4cw3Jbald9UGdn8/ffQL1ySREinokiJh7dKA9++YrtoW0Hic= =FBU3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
