That and get everyone to salt every message with a random assortment of words 
and phrases from "flag lists"


On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <na...@nadim.cc> wrote:

> The solution to this is to make encryption more and more widely used. By 
> increasing the number of people with access to encryption technology for 
> their communications, we dilute this threat.
> 
> NK
> 
> On 2013-06-21, at 11:52 AM, Michael Rogers <mich...@briarproject.org> wrote:
> 
>> Signed PGP part
>> It's unfortunate that Ars Technica has chosen that angle, since I
>> believe it misrepresents the situation: if you use encryption, the NSA
>> may indeed retain your encrypted traffic, but won't be able to read
>> it. If you don't use encryption, the NSA will be able to read your
>> traffic, and will retain it if it contains anything interesting, or if
>> you're not an American. So encryption is still a net gain for privacy.
>> 
>> Blending in is a red herring in my opinion - metadata (which isn't
>> subject to the restrictions discussed in the Ars Technica article)
>> reveals who talks to whom and when. That's sufficient to identify
>> persons of interest, regardless of whether they use encryption. Any
>> activist or journalist should assume they're already a person of
>> interest, thanks to their job and the people they talk to. Not to be
>> subject to surveillance would be something of a professional
>> embarrassment. ;-) So forget about blending in. Assume you're subject
>> to surveillance, and think about what steps you're going to take in
>> response.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> On 21/06/13 16:41, dan mcquillan wrote:
>>> a few people who came to our university cryptoparty asked whether 
>>> they're just going to draw attention to themselves by encrypting
>>> email.
>>> 
>>> the latest leaks seems to give a firm 'yes', as the NSA
>>> specifically keeps encrypted comms indefinitely.
>>> 
>>> sample news item:
>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130620/15390323549/nsa-has-convinced-fisa-court-that-if-your-data-is-encrypted-you-might-be-terrorist-so-itll-hang-onto-your-data.shtml
>>> 
>>> 
>> <http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130620/15390323549/nsa-has-convinced-fisa-court-that-if-your-data-is-encrypted-you-might-be-terrorist-so-itll-hang-onto-your-data.shtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter>
>>> 
>>> how would list members answer the question 'to encrypt or not to
>>> encrypt'?
>>> 
>>> cheers dan
>>> 
>>> 
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