-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 06/24/2013 08:39 PM, Jurre andmore wrote: > > I don't see how this stands-up. Next to that, the AIVD/MIVD hasn't > deployed a nationwide eavesdropping setup for internet unlike the > Swedes, Germans and Americans. > *** Does anyone remember the low altitude AWACS stunt at HAL2001?
Do not be fooled. Cops are cops. They work for the politico-legal system, and the system tells that hackers are terrorists. Surely, there won't be any arrest, and there will be clueless cops asking for tips to download illegal music. And there will be more smoke to throw at your eyes to catch you off-guard, sooner or later. First thing, as nothing special will happen, many attendants will look at Eleanor, Jake, and other voices as paranoids the next time they tell the truth. Of course, there's nothing different between OHM nor other conferences: cops are present, they're watching, they're learning. They surely even learn a lot of bullshit from their paranoid point of view. And they can make that bullshit into a case that might even lead them to some special. The huge difference, and now it's not even related to OHM per se, is the outlook people will take on the scene. Between those who will consider police harmless, or dumb, or those who will take them as friendly, or heroic, there we have a problem. The problem is not police, it's not us vs. them. The problem is blurring the lines between resistance to the society of control, and collaboration to keep that corrupted system running. Everyone wants to love the mayor on election day. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRyN3cAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9ZlkP+wdlpu/fAWMZR5SdivuEjIlb zPhrm0oFZtm1eiIZCkH3D2Jt3pXigoLa5lCmJhswbELsDzAAsHAInNlpe34TGM/i zDo2dydVFKiEKB4+REoFV2Ov2GmUraGwGiboO8OtaUVaHrrPjSEVN7Tg9+ZQzPAE ckXpg/hUfhRhHw1W3oidbPkuc1KHvUtaDk90LRzlu24VnzyHDprf/MbRct3TeLaA BNvHF33gfxgYLuvCp4BXASYVBRtk7DQlp6mLojGTJhoTZ4UCWYJVO9pLQSrExNzO sT/ow8ywyNCzbL5I0OPqYSkgA4TjHzDsH7d7uuGO17Yuk99m9WGoI7MbDBdTiOXj Qg+gcuWepNnDp03EqCMVwrbJ497yFMiWvPZuPtPJmMmH1wvU+2YFFwA93kli62UG G8uQXZmnEmEBB8WpugVvgzf37Mz1cYvYe5elK1QPaanwoIo8UUqDBbfjQHhg7gBo st5XyqaE51bpT65ypz5WzZuaF8UrNYOwNP55QrOflQ2n1IlXgJFhdav85yQraN+e gFXLBbtlSUhtiKrDcTMhfStJR312UZubG5wkhFJOh/WxU3mBN1mF/RFX3ZPoYINp DsLhxg+Uz3Fu4KC9kFEcgM92MD7JKHSPEaY6+mUI5h81LHU7cICqK9+do4bDyPKh kpC7Ef8dk6SXvzeUhRSM =Axhb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
