<snip> Brian said in another post that he thought IP blockage sounds fair and > asked for response. Well, I've been through IP blocks and they are > pure, unmitigated hell -- all kinds of people losing their website > visibility and ability to communicate by email because one site was > taken over by some moron doing spamming. Restoring the IP is a process > because you have to do a bunch of things including detect which of the > sites on the server was violating. Try doing that with the server shut > off the Internet! I mean...how is the world is *that* fair? I can't > see any legitimate reason for an IP block in a democratic society and, > trust me, they occur all the time. > > Not everyone on this list knows about this stuff and I think we should > be able to talk about it. No? >
</snip> Alfredo, just to clarify, I did not meant to imply filtering/blocking was "fair," where that implies "justified" or "right." I only meant that it seemed understandable why AT&T would engage in this behavior, not that we shouldn't actively organize and agitate against it. I also believe we need a high amount of clarity around the specifics of any filtering event to best assess how to proceed. You can see via my @BaghdadBrian account on Twitter that I've taken some steps to try and understand why it's been filtered, unfortunately they didn't get very far. Regards Brian > > Alfredo > > - -- > Alfredo López > > Co-Chair, Leadership Committee > May First/People Link > https://mayfirst.org > > My Column on: > http://thiscantbehappening.net > > My Blog > http://www.alfredolopez.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSsgi4AAoJEDWfIjs2VOOXcG4P/RDrXzuX/OsTLIPLlL64P9oC > sB3xHhq++2JCZWBWMlL5xURSs3qrJvO5xdWITmHDpWSohOuZV5ep4+xH26Ykn4Oc > fXCmeJUiK3nxPFQZqnSADV0zayFscs1gnmMQ9b/8qsRQA5gPZ6YU/V3m2oDOieuf > vS8liDGi1Q/Fe0oYQ2iX/LQlpbjzvbG3wahINyycjbHAqTJ1YMjn0qRIPDLhR1J/ > 5zapD6JmNvO5DVFrKXrVORCiGTSZiYfIKPWdnn+7st5hROpBIQqovKFlZAfjayCN > YP2Xb/v6FewypwOXplgD9svQeYPsW5co66qaKTFECnZ5aQg2C2LXngCCaj0pMAvS > Syfmzt93sAgbCEEmGcdQaf+G9Eser1rqYxpkn/gz7Y+15FYD1R26OktPhoLTcqOZ > 2DMMfgan1W0SIGykfG/CEWrcb7791QWV80qBQa+euyPsJ1aOaWMKwe5bNELHIeJP > EIDO1z3GB8Oe/YD9TgY8UNmtseKH2lvIFcZwsrzSBt6vLu9yaRTDiZUCxmjV573j > +B+GPyGkcmvB7z0haRO0z4WQxgX10aogQ3aRRR1tldVEH7YsuqIy2p8FmESBDySs > n/jSdL3xFkuKz4TmNWQMSDDcnOBgUkoTPtew7IsC1KbQjFTzvEcQxcB+k14amFW+ > mnAFCINVITKl40NI2WWS > =13GN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations > of list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > -- Brian Conley Director, Small World News http://smallworldnews.tv m: 646.285.2046 Skype: brianjoelconley
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