> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:16:41AM -0800, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > If we all find a way to solve the anti-terrorism problem, or at least > > carve out space for it to be solved, we'd be less at odds for protecting > > privacy etc. There are some promising ideas I think, but all solutions > > so far involve painful and often unacceptable tradeoffs.
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 08:58:15PM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > A rather obvious -- but nearly entirely overlooked -- approach is > to refuse to be terrorized. Pretty much agree, but so far only Israel is famous for following that path. Sigh. In the law proposal for a secure Internet that some folks and me worked out, we see some potential in addressing the issue in a more systemic way: - In order to also avoid the problem of fake news having a business model and the possibility of micro-invasive influencing of electorate through bulk surveillance and big data analysis plus targeted IMHO anti-constitutional manipulation... ... we propose that all social interactions on the Internet be end-to-end encrypted and anonymized by law. The technologies aren't entirely capable of that yet, but a strong legislational interest creates the incentive for industry to participate in a new fair market rather than being cut out of it, so that is not the primary problem. Yes, this would imply that the way Facebook & co function is no longer legal. Social networking has to become a basic function of the Internet, like TCP/IP today. I would love to find a way for corporations to run the platforms of our constitutional liberties, but I see no way this can ever avoid conflict with the constitutions of our democracies. Social interaction cannot be a product that is being sold to us in exchange for surveillance. As a side effect, such a legislation also impedes SPAM, phishing and other kinds of "cybercrime". It also implies de-facto net neutrality and a few other nice things. - In order to enable law enforcement, methods are provided for LEA's to observe specific targets rather than the entire population - as in accordance with the constitution. That is *not* done by key escrow or any other method that de-facto depends on the good will of the LEA's as depending on any such good will is anti-constitutional by definition. We propose physical and cryptographic consensus style of approaches for ensuring that the number of observation operations stays within constitutional boundaries. Explaining that means copy & pasting the proposal itself. Please, when making Internet advocacy, keep this option in the back of your head: One way to deal with it all can be to actually fix it. More on youbroketheinternet.org. -- E-mail is public! Talk to me in private using encryption: http://loupsycedyglgamf.onion/LynX/ irc://loupsycedyglgamf.onion:67/lynX -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.