--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Lorraine DeNardis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Not trying to offend anyone here. Just watched a movie and used it >as an example. The same example could be used with Native American >Tribes, African Tribes, and Viking Tribes. At least I cite my >sources, where is your source that cites they were states?
Jack Weatherford's book, "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World." Weatherford's an historian and anthropologist. >Why should I believe you over Hollywood? Indeed, why believe historians and anthropologists over the entertainment industry? >In the Genghis Khan movie I watched that was just released, these >were not states. They were tribes. Tribal nomads usually have their own states. Their kings are usually called "chiefs." The cost of exist from the tribe is usually so high that people put up with all sorts of oppression in order to remain in the tribe. Such tribes are organized to produce the maximum number of male relatives, so they will be loyal to the kinship group leader and thus strengthen him against his enemies. That is why polygamy is often encouraged amongst such nomads, and why women are strictly required to be sexually exclusive to their husbands and devoted to having and raising his children. Disloyalty to the chieftain is usually punishable by death or expulsion from the tribe, which usually amounts to the same thing. The Chieftain usually has de facto ownership over everything and everyone in the tribe. When such nomadic tribes conquer settled agriculturalists, they simply graft their pre-existing chain of command on top of the agricultural society, without any need to re-organize themselves politically, thus establishing new states de novo or taking over existing states. The settlers are treated as herd animals, if they are allowed to live. If not, they are treated as animals to be hunted and killed. This pretty much applies to most American Indians, African, Arab, and Mongol tribes. Tim Starr Fight for Liberty! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fightforliberty/
