When you buy it you're agreeing to the conditions that the owner sets forth as part of the contract.
Libertarians believe in contracts, or do you not? What if someone distributed MS Office to 10,000 people from his one copy. Is that right? Same goes for one copy to someone else. And I think Microsoft lets you put their programs on 2 or 3 of your own computers now. If you don't like their terms, don't break the seal, and buy WordPerfect Suite or another competing product. Nic --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cicconi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I buy it and then share it how is that violating copyright. Are you saying we aren't free enough to share something. This is like Microsoft telling me I can only load a program I buy in one computer, or not share it on a network. Give me a break man. > > DC 4 Liberty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicolas Leobold > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:53 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater Saturday night > > > Of course it's that simple. > > It doesn't matter if enforcement is a joke. Of course it's a joke- - > the justice system in America is a joke. > > Stealing is wrong. If it was your intellectual property, I'm sure you > would feel differently. > > And if you don't believe in intellectual property, you don't believe > in property, period. > > Nic > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cicconi" <dcforliberty@> > wrote: > > > > No, it's not as simple as that. Copyright enforcement is a joke, to > say that sharing an item with someone is illegal and warrants > lawsuits and home invasions is ridiculous. The artists may have > rights but they don't usurp all of ours. > > > > DC 4 Liberty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nicolas Leobold > > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:42 PM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie > theater Saturday night > > > > > > If someone creates a work then it's their property, it's simple > as > > that. > > > > The scientologists I've met haven't used any force and fraud that > > I've seen. > > > > Nic > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cicconi" <dcforliberty@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Give it a break Nic, these people are thieves. They will steal > your > > children and work them in gulags. I know I was a member. They are > the > > perfect example of government sitting back and allowing force and > > fraud to go on at the same time, all because of their power. > Their > > tax exempt status has been stripped in many countries, the only > > reason they ever got it in the US was the fact that they filed > over > > 2500 law suits against the IRS and they finally capitulated. > > > > > > We are a country obsessed with copyrights and have used them to > > rent seek and not allow certain industries to change with the > market > > place, further ripping off the market place. Instead we plead to > the > > federal government to save our industry by enforcing stupid laws > that > > get you served with papers at the front door or even worse the > door > > gets kicked in. I'm tired of these artistic asswholes who haven't > > excepted the fact the market place has changed and that's all > there > > is to it. The artists types that are usually concerned about > > everyone's rights don't seem to care that they have turned loose > a > > government on their behalf that is fining people money and > kicking in > > doors all in the name of protecting there creation. > > > > > > I THINK I'M GOING TO PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO OPPRESS OURSELVES WITH THIS > > CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > DC 4 Liberty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Nicolas Leobold > > > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:09 PM > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie > > theater Saturday night > > > > > > > > > But those are copyrighted works of The Church of Scientology. > > > > > > Freedom of Speech applies to curtailing government suppression, > it > > > doesn't apply to private property and an organization or > > individual > > > controlling their own materials. > > > > > > If the videos were Scientology property and they were > > stolen/broadcast > > > without permission, then Cruise and the church have a right to > be > > angry. > > > > > > Nic > > > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <pyotr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, see his response to the airing of his Scientolgy videos. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Nicolas Leobold > > > > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:25 PM > > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie > > theater > > > Saturday night > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, pyotr@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rudy might have responded better if you treated him like > Tom: > > > > > "Love you, Rudy" > > > > > > > > > > Tom Cruise is not exactly a defender of Freedom of Speech > > > either... In > > > > > fact the opposite. > > > > > > > > Do you have any examples of how Tom Cruise is not a defender > of > > free > > > > speech? > > > > > > > > Nic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater Saturday night > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I went to the 7:15pm showing of Woody > Allen's > > > new movie > > > > > > Vicky Christina Barcelona at AMC 25 theater in Times > Square > > with > > > > my mom. > > > > > > > > > > > > As we were sitting in our seats in the second row from the > > > front, my > > > > > > mom glances to the right and says to me, "That looks like > > Rudy > > > > > > Giuliani sitting next to me". Just a moment before, > > Giuliani and > > > > > > presumably his new wife Judith had inched past my long > legs > > to > > > their > > > > > > seats, but Judith had gone back out to get refreshments. > I > > didn't > > > > > > notice who they were when they passed. > > > > > > > > > > > > After my mom noticed that it was Rudy Giuliani, she leaned > > > over to him > > > > > > and said, "We're in for an enjoyable evening, we've > picked > > a good > > > > > > movie". My mother is more charitable than I am. I leaned > > over > > > her and > > > > > > said to him, "I hope you enjoy the movie, but I wish you > > would > > > stop > > > > > > violating the Bill of Rights". Rudy had a look of scorn > on > > his > > > face > > > > > > and replied, "Well, you enjoy the movie". > > > > > > > > > > > > That was his response to an earnest request to respect > the > > Bill of > > > > > > Rights--"Enjoy the movie". > > > > > > > > > > > > My mom small talked with Judith Giuliani a bit and after > > the movie > > > > > > Rudy and her made a quick exit past me and out of the > > > auditorium. It > > > > > > seemed like Rudy was afraid I would try to trip him as he > > squeezed > > > > by me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday night while walking with some friends from dinner, > we > > > saw Tom > > > > > > Cruise, Katie Holmes and Baby Suri as they came out of the > > > American > > > > > > Felt Building on 12th or 13th Street. The whole place was > > > stuffed with > > > > > > paparazzi, but we sqeezed in on the side and got right up > > close to > > > > > > them. I called out to Tom, "Love you, Tom", and he smiled > > and said > > > > > > "thank you" before getting into their SUV. > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie stars are a lot more fun than politicians. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a true story. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nic Leobold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Recharge and relax. 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