"Ben Irvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part: >> Please explain what kind (i.e. mechanism, not sentiment) of gov'tal >> pressures you have in mind.
> For starters, any person applying for citizenship or foreigner living in America > (for any reason) would have to pass my five-bad things about Islam test: > 1. The supremacy nature of Islam. > 2. Dhimmitude and beheading areas of the Koran. > 3. Low status of women. > 4. Lack of separation between church and state. > 5. The general barbaric primitive nature of Islam. > Admittedly, # 5 is a bit ambiguous and needs to be better defined; however, > a belief in martyrdom, 72-virgins in paradise, all Jews are apes and monkeys, > and Jihad, would qualify. :-) You still need to clarify. Are you saying all foreigners would have to pass a test saying they understand the things above? So, like, all foreigners have to become experts on the bad things about Islam? >>> "American social pressures impacted German-American and even German-Nazis >>> behavior in America." >> Again, what KIND of pressures, > The social pressures were a general total condemnation of Nazism by 99% of > Americans. People, movies, radio, the press, etc. all spoke out against > Nazis behavior, ideas, and influence in America. Pro-Nazis businesses were > identified and boycotted, etc. That's only because the USA was AT WAR with such a COUNTRY. There was hardly any of that before the war, and there was no particular such condemnation of ideologies and policies that weren't EXPLICITLY Nazi or easily identified as somehow German or Nazi. Read for example "As We Go Marching" by John Flynn. Most Americans had no objection to Nazis at home or abroad as long as they weren't anti-American. >>...and what was accomplished by them? > Well, by early 1942 all Nazis Bunds were closed in America, and their numbers > had been decreasing even before we went to war because of social rejection. But they were never that big a deal to begin with. > Charles Lindberg, could not get booked for speeches, etc. :-) Even Germans > and others that were sympatric to Nazism went into the shadows. However, > the mass of Germans and other Germanic-like Americans realized that they > either had to accept non-Nazis values, or be rather unpopular and boycotted > by most of the American people. IOW, most Nazis and Nazis sympathizers > conformed to American acceptable political beliefs and philosophies. Those that > did not were either deported, imprisoned, or kept to themselves. That's imaginary history. Before the war even ended, Nazis and Nazi sympathizers from Germany had been recuited for the coming Cold War. Denazification basically consisted of "meet the new boss". And what do you think "non-Nazis values" were that "Germanic-like Americans" (whatever they are) "had to accept"? You're going to have to be mores specific if you want me to believe you have anything other than a fantasy in mind. > I as a single individual impact others by > the way I react to practicing Nazis, Muslims, or Khmer Rouge followers. I > will not give a free p-c pass to anyone I see living fascism. > A demonstration of this happened last winter when I visited a couple of > my female cousins in a large Southwestern city. I was staying at a motel > with my adult youngest son, when they called and wanted to surprise us by > taking us to a great exotic restaurant (they failed to mention the name). They > picked us up and the surprise was an expensive Arab restaurant. I told > my cousins that the restaurant was probably non-Muslim (most American > Arabs are not Muslim...they left the Middle East while they still could :-); but, > if it was Muslim owned or sold only Islamic-correct food and drink, that I > would walk out in dramatic fashion. What if they were kosher and didn't have a liquor license? That combination would pretty much guarantee their food & drink would be halal. They could be trying to attract kosher-keeping Jewish diners and just unwilling (or unable) to comply with governmental regs to serve alcoholic beverages. Would you have boycotted them if they offered cheeseburgers, which could be made halal but not kosher? > My cousins had never even considered boycotting a Muslim joint; so, were > rather bewildered. Upon being seated I ordered a bottle of the house red- > wine for the table, and shrimp cocktails for everyone (not bothering to wait > for the menu). I also asked the waiter his recommendations on their best > pork meal, etc. My cousins were freaked. :-) Of course, because you were acting like a nut. In Your Sly Tribe, Robert _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
