Hi,

What is missing to move on ?
 - hwdb-client is available for Mandriva and Ubuntu, who used it ?
 - does Xline provide such a tool ?
 - we need to provide compatibility with those means used to provide feedback
*automatically* for the end-user *in the short term* to identify potential
drawbacks of those databases and propose a better feedback (once each 6-month,
mostly important for LiveCD for example)
 - we need a central database as proposed, implementation at tuxfamily.org is
possible (either with MySQL or Postgres, just register at
https://panel.tuxfamily.org and let me know)

What we have :
 - our objective is clear ;-)
 - a wiki to be updated http://dev.librehwdb.tuxfamily.org with new pages (DB
format needs discussion)
 - users' demand remains the same : what does work ? we should answer : in the
long term, only free driver address your request : I'd like a list like
http://demo.librehwdb.tuxfamily.org/modems//modems_tab.php?lang=en&supported=yes
(well : none of these modems can be recommended by FSD as they rely at least
on closed-firmware). Though, this is a good example to get driver's developers
and user's feedback synergies to provide relevant information

What we need :
 - licenses choice need clarification (GPL + BSD : both for both programs &
documentation would be a plus, I need to understand how licenses can mix...
seems we all need to agree on this : could be used by BSD / Mach / Hurd /
Linux and with hardware-vendors negociations ?). I would recommend dual BSD +
GPL for distribution, hardware being used for any
 - dialog on several ML to promote a common approach between distributions
(LaptopMission for Ubuntu is clearly an example)
 - an operationnal web-site with php/postgresql (or mysql) feedback active to
provide  a functionnal demo, I think that we can find a common implementation
of current DB format, comments welcome on previous mails providing an
implementation (see
https://mail.gna.org/public/librehwdb-dev/2005-04/msg00002.html )

Please provide feedback on what you want to do, include our own-ML in
iniatives you find valuable : summer time is a good initiative-wise time to
push our ideas forward.
@++
Ben'. aka baud123

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