https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84350
--- Comment #17 from Jay Philips <philip...@hotmail.com> --- (In reply to Owen Genat from comment #16) > > Can you elaborate on this. > > This was a general reference to the design plan for toolbars vs sidebar. > Rather than elaborate here, I will do so in the Design forum as that would > seem more appropriate. I have made a start in these two locations: > > https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/218 > https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/217?r=219#message-219 Well as this bug report is discussing toolbar and their buttons, i dont see the argument in bringing up the sidebar. > > One of the primary goals of the single group button is to provide quick > > access to being able to add a single shape. > > We are talking different forms of quick access (latency) trade-off here. I > will just summarise here both our points. The advantage of having a single > always-displayed toolbar with group item, is that the initial click is low > latency, but hunting for a specific item remains high(er) latency. By > comparison the current toolbar has high initial latency (getting it > displayed) and then low(er) latency while in use, as more recently used > items are on display at once. Thus for inserting a single shape, the group > button is more advantageous, but for constructing a drawing, a dedicated > toolbar is often more advantageous. We seem to be in agreement about this > and in honesty I do not hold a strong opinion, particular with respect to > this toolbar in Writer, but I wanted to make these points clear. Yes we do agree on these points. Both have their advantages, so i'd like to create the one that is presently not available. > > I doubt there is a need to dedicate an entire sidebar pane to inserting > > drawing objects and this enhancement is focused on toolbar users how wont be > > using the sidebar. > > I guess this depends, as I indicated above on the ultimate design strategy > with respect to the toolbars and sidebar. Look forward to hearing this design strategy, as i consider the toolbar-only UI and toolbar + sidebar UI to be separate modes a user should be able to choose from. https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/69?r=118#message-118 https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/163 > > Can you elaborate on this. > > I meant that View > Toolbar > Drawing could be amended to expose a new > Drawing deck in the sidebar (as Format > Styles and Formatting now will, as > per bug 73151). Of course this is speculative, and it may be View > Toolbar > > Drawing will merely hide/reveal a launched toolbar, should this type of > behaviour be pursued. Again, this is really a discussion better suited to > the Design forum. If you'd like to propose a drawing deck in the sidebar, i look forward to its discussion and mockups. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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