https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84548
--- Comment #13 from yvan.mas...@openmailbox.org --- Hi Cor, Thanks again for the time you spend on this. (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12) > Hi Yvan, > > Let me try again :) > > > First, thanks a lot for this good and usefull software ! > > thanks! > > > 1. When you finish your label document (choosing format, choosing database > > and fields, synchronizing contents, using mailing assistant to merge > > addresses, save the resulting file), you obtain a sheet where you can only > > modify the first label, but not the others. This is the biggest problem, > > because in real life there is almost always one label you need to modify > > manually. > > This behaviour is caused all label above #1 being linked the first label. > (actually all are frames). > This allows the Synchronize button, to be activated on the third Tab of the > File > New labels dialog. > > Luckily, in LibreOffice 5.0.1 I do see an option: Tools > Options > Writer > > Formatting aids... Ignore protection. (I think this is new.) Thanks for the tip ! This made our secretary screaming last year. I see at least two possible solutions to improve this: - write this in the documentation in the section referring to labels. - Ignore protection by default when working on labels (I might be wrong but I do not see any reason to protect labels by default). > > > > 2. After choosing format, database and fields, you cannot have an overview > > of the merge result, the only choice is to print or to save : you can not > > correct you mistake directly. > > I can do that after step #7. (Since protection can be ignored - see above) > For normal letters (not labels) step #6 does that job. You are right: this is not an obvious solution but it works and you can go back an make correction if something is wrong. > > > Maybe add a "Merging overview" button to the > > "Synchronize labels" ? > > You mean on the specific tool bar? I mean on the small floating window where there is the "Synchronize labels" button. > That would introduce a third way of performing mail merge.. People may get > confused? > (However the idea as such, is not bad.) Indeed, but I think this one would be really intuitive, would allow to quickly toggle between "database fields view" and "merged view", and so very usefull especially for newcomers. > > > 2bis. After choosing format, database and fields, you have to launch the > > Mailing Assistant and skip most of the steps to save the merged file. This > > step is very confusing. > > Choosing Next, seeing that nothings needs to be done, choosing Next ... > etc.. that works too. > The next time, you know where to go ;) > > > Why not just had a "Merge and save" button in the > > "Synchronize labels" toolbox ? > > See my comment above. I have the same argument here: a "Merge and save" button would not be so confusing for experienced users, but would be really nice for beginners. > > > > >> 3. When you create a new mail label sheets, you can not add a new > > >> database. > > >> You have to create a writer document, add the database, and then only go > > >> in > > >> File -> New -> Labels. It is not really intuitive. > > > > > The menu Edit > Change datasource should do that? > > > > 3. Yes, you can do that, but I think it would be better to also include an > > "Add data source" button directly in the mail labels' first window. I > > suppose it would not be difficult to add, but it would be far more > > intuitive. > > I don't understand this. > File > New > Label allows me to choose a data source. File > New > Label opens a first window which allows to choose data source ONLY from databases which were previously added. > Tools > Mail merge (Use current document (already created labels) .. Step 3, > insert Address book, allows it too. Yes, but same problem as I said above: the need to add a database, BEFORE creating a new label document where you need it, is in my opinion not intuitive at all. > > Apart from the challenges you, me and many others experience to fiend their > easiest way to perform mail merge tasks, which is reflected in your remarks > and our discussion, I do see one specific IMO new request in your report: > > Extend the 'Synchronize' toolbar with two buttons: "Merging overview", > "Merge and save". > Is that fine for you? Then we could change the summary and settings of this > bug accordingly... I agree. It would allow to simplify this enhancement request, and so to express something usable for someone to implement it: It is better to improve slowly than to do nothing. > Thanks for your attention again. > Cor Regards, Yvan -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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