https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501
--- Comment #104 from John Mills <jmill...@yahoo.com> --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #103) > (In reply to Pedro from comment #102) > > * KOffice - menus & toolbars (abandoned in 2015 but you said past 15 years) DEAD > * AbiWord - menus & toolbars (although it's just a Writer alternative) Basically on life support and not an office suite, just a word processor > * Calligra - toolbar and vertical-tabbed sidebar Linux Only > * NeoOffice - menus & toolbars Mac Only > > and the only one on that list with tabs seems to be OnlyOffice. If you count > commercial office suites, you do find more ribbons (SoftMaker, OfficeSuite, > WPS), but then there's also iWork with its minimalist interface (I believe > they're not hiding tabs but feel free to correct me). So, with the > commercial ones, you still only get to, say, around half. Not "every" > alternative". This is factually not correct, iWorks is not commercial in the sense I can not purchase a copy, it is Mac only and comes for free with your system if you need it. How is that half of commercial office suites on your list? Every other defaults to a tabbed interface and there are certainly others you have not added in your list such as the excellent Korean Hancom office. > > Furthermore, the users whose experience you want > > to defend actually do have problems in adapting from a Ribbon UI to the > > Standard Toolbar. > > There is some adaptation, granted; but as discussed above - the adaptation > is important and beneficial. What is the essential part? That you force a user to 'unlearn' everything they know about an office suite interface? Where is the benefit, could you expound upon this assertion? > > Just go to any comment section of a LibO release to notice that. > > The Standard UI is a fossil from a different computing era. > > Well, it seems that statistically, that's not actually the case; and you've > only based this statement on the statistical claim. I would say based upon your previous statement it is your statistical claim in error and not that from Pedro. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
