* Present: + Norbert, Andras, Petr, Kendy, Lionel, Markus, Michael M, Stephan, Eike, Caolan, Thorsten, Cedric, Astron, Bjoern, Ahmad
* Pending Action Items + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern) + [ pinging Tollef ] + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M) + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael) + helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy) + [ still pending ] + SLES11 / temporary PTF for the server ? using SP3 toolchain ? (Kendy) [ pending new packages ] * Dresden Impress Sprint (Thorsten) + if you want to go: book now ! free lodging stops tonight. + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013 * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0.2 rc1 status + builds ready, being up-loaded + 4.0.2 rc2 deadline - March 25th + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline - next Monday (18th) * UX input (Astron) + concern wrt. responding to open-issues on the UX advise list + hope to do better next time. + colour themes in documents + is anyone interested in hacking on this ? + requires some level of UI / design work up-front + request for new icon: AI: + re-send details (Lionel) + new flat icon theme bits happening here: + https://github.com/libodesign/flat-icons * Learning lessons from the template manager story (Cedric) + was never included in any release as an experimental feature + can we find a way to encourage people to try experimental features ? + communication problems around entirely new UI elements (Astron) + better testing of new designs needed early in the cycle (Cedric) + no need for a formal process, shouldn't be hard to get testers for nice new features (Bjoern) AI: + need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX) + either in that dialog or a new dialog + also issue with only editing templates that are in the mgr * use non-versioned installation directory on Windows for 4.0.3? (Petr) + see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62303 + proposed by Pedro and Stuart + this is supposed to solve 'shared extension' migration problems in the future + are there really migration problems (Andras) + what happens with upgrades (Lionel) + that's the question. + shouldn't be migrating shared extensions (Fridrich) + might solve one issue but break other things extensions that crash while loading etc. + nothing against using the same name (Stephan) + same issue for user-extensions, can blacklist etc. + we have two versions - user config directory '4' and for installations we have 4.0 + or use just the major version. + decided: change the default install directory to 'LibreOffice 4', major version changes require more work. AI: + will switch to this for 4.1.0 (ie. on master) * gnumake (Michael) AI: + finally remove the */prj/build.lst files ... * GSOC ideas page (Cedric) Needs updating by 28th Mar. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas * gnumake enabled improvements (Bjoern) + killing off delivered headers - they bust LTO https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61627#c3 + prefer to have a top-level folder with all headers in it (Bjoern) + disadvantage headers not in modules to which they belong (Michael S) + alternative $(srcdir) as an include header ... can then include any file from anywhere + instead have the global headers in one central global directory AI: + check behaviour of git-cherry-pick AI: + write up for the mailing list (Bjoern) + find out how other big projects: Mozilla, linux, etc. do this + why bother ? (Michael) + all to work around Windows performance issues: copying headers, lots of dmake rules, incapable of handling lots of -I + work needs to be done post 4.0.2 (ie. next month) + decided to go ahead absent any mailing-list flameage * Coverity progress (Markus/Julien/Norbert/Caolan) + work ongoing, going well. * Automated crash on import test results (Markus) + still suffering memory corruptions, another reliability bug elsewhere, nasties ... * Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern) + following up with individuals + website ML poked to create page for listing devs + turned into a huge thread, not read yet * Build Hardware (Thorsten) + plan to buy a fast Mac / set-it-up & get it running + plan to order, get it setup in Munich near Florian AI: + buy build hardware (Thorsten) * Hard Hacks: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks + three open slots still. + thanks to Markus for fdo#61025 + plan to have 2 writer, 1 spread, 1 draw/impress etc. fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object (Michael) fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing (Muthu) * QA update (Joel) + new status: verified works for me - for use by original reporter + investigating netbook bits for QA competition + 176 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage. http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o (checkout topic in #libreoffice-qa) + QA contest coming up with swag / prizes * Open 4.1 MAB / regressions + 4 (of 8) older 4/8 2/5 1/2 3/3 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB / regressions + 19 (of 106) older 17/105 14/99 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 18% 16% 14% 16% 17% 18% 22% 22% 14% 22% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1 * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 77 (of 215) older 77/214 75/211 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36% 36% 36% 36% 30% 25% 25% 25% 24% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 29 (of 78) older 32/79 27/72 + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess ** http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q - has the latest query for un-fixed bisected bugs * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 289(+3) bugs open of 1368(+15) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 96 (+3) + LibreOffice - 28 (+0) + Presentation - 28 (-2) + Spreadsheet - 24 (-2) + Database - 23 (-1) + Drawing - 21 (+2) + Crashes - 21 (+2) + Borders - 15 (+1) + Migration - 5 (+0) + Basic - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1 -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/