* Present: + Jan-Marek, Michael S, Sophie, Oliver, Stephan, Miklos, Kendy, Andras, Thorsten, Eike, Bjoern, Cloph, Lionel, Robinson,Norbert, jani * Completed Actions / Items: + get callgrind trace of SVG rendering in tdf#82214 (Jan-Marek) [ added to the bug ]. + check esc-bug-stats: bibisected bug count commit (Robinson) [ patch sent to michael ] + switch release -> debug + 'make check' for gerrit / Linux builders (Norbert) [ done ] * Pending Action Items: + double-check duplicate libmar/src, update/src (Kendy) + UserAgent - move to 1% of users, drop bundled-languages etc. (Michael) + add gerrit stats & old/stale commit links to ESC agenda (JanI) + announce deprecation & removal of one SVG filter for 5.2 timeframe (Thorsten) + and CC & thank explicitly those who worked on this. [ poked the active authors there for now ] + add more repos from gerrit/github to gitdm-config scripts (e.g. for Document Liberation repos) (Thorsten) [ ongoing ] + add stuff to Release Notes and Under The Hood (everyone) * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 5.0.5 + RC1 due next week + 5.0.6 will the the last 5.0 release + 5.1.0 RC3 / final + RC2 done on Tue + now Tue (envening) is THE deadline for all tagging, to avoid slips + RC3 after the FOSDEM + after RC2, two extra +1's are necessary for libreoffice-5-1-0 + don't forget :-) + Late Features (now for 5.1.1) + New Slide Transitions: polish [ screenshots got into release notes; still issues wrt. geometry shaders / GL 3.2, more fixing & improvements on the way ]. + UserAgent display & tweakage [ still needs random 1% bits doing ] + URL for the online documentation needs change (Bjoern) + and the logic to find the current version + API best on the TDF infra (Miklos) + pick one at hub.libreoffice.org, the actual server to be assigned later (Cloph) + impress mode switching (Thorsten) + change position in the toolbar + not controversial, let's do it + Android & iOS Remote + new release ? + will build later today / tomorrow + iOS remote needs re-releasing with new certificate. + Release Notes: are they complete: + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.1 => please do fill that out ... check commit logs. + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UnderTheHood/5.1 + help also appreciated. * Documentation (Kendy) + no news * ActiveX & general functionality removal (Michael) + concern wrt. removal of functionality left & right: + npapi (fair cop) + Office 6.0/95 export - removed from UI, not code. + OO.o 1.0 export - likewise. + tdf#92925 Remove SVM export - likewise, debugging ? + building on reasonable enough suggestion: + tdf#92925 Remove PCT export - disabled code ? + tdf#92925 Remove PBM, PGM, and PPM Export - removes code + tdf#92925 Remove XPM export - removes code. + tdf#92925 Remove RAS export - removes code. + missed the discussion on all of this. + how that happened that it is an Easy Hack, when it did not go through ESC? (JanI) + ESC not reviewing Easy Hacks (Thorsten) + would like to keep ActiveX (Thorsten) + still people using it for automation & embedding + the intention was probably that for some strange formats, import is enough (Miklos) + but probably this went too far (Miklos) + for the Office 95, it was an ESC decision (Michael S.) http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.qa/3078 + most patches remove the writing C++ code too (Jan-Marek) + proposal: Take it to the UX (Bjoern) + to evaluate what is the usage of the formats (Bjoern) + get the list of all the formats that LibreOffice uses (Bjoern) + and come up with a proposal (Bjoern) + LibreOffice used for many conversions (Thorsten) + unoconv / libreofficekit (Thorsten) + killing filters for export is a problem for that too + no CVE problems with export (Thorsten) + do not see the need for removal really (Kendy) + we can limit what the user sees, but still for the auto conversions etc. useful to have (Thorsten) + actions + stop merging removal of filters + if you want to remove, take it to the ESC, there might be good reasons + if people in favor of the filters that were removed, revert the removal + should not be a big problem for the Easy Hack authors AI + CC the easy hacks to the dev list, to be more monitored (Bjoern) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&email1=libreoffice%40lists.freedesktop.org&emailcc1=1&emailtype1=notsubstring&keywords=easyHack%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=584674&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=--- + currently 87 unresolved easyhacks not CC'ed to the dev-list: 10 Calc+Chart, 8 graphics stack, 8 UI, 6 base, 5 framework, 4 extensions(?!), + JanI will monitor the removals, and bring to the ESC if any happen * GSoC 2016 (Thorsten) + Cedric stepped down + need to find a new maintainer + Thorsten can do, need one more + JanI volunteers as helper + org application period opens Feb 8th (timeline: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline) + actions needed ASAP: update/amend/cleanse GSoC ideas page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas + needs to be done before application + review all GSoC-related pages if still relevant/accurate (below https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC) + recruit/confirm possible mentors, decide on new gsoc admin team + who wants to mentor? (Thorsten) + if you don't want, remove your name from the Ideas + Lionel would like to mentor, but needs a co-mentor + Kendy, Miklos, janI, Thorsten would like to mentor + Bjoern would just co-mentor as a backstop + There might be a coop with KDE to get the KDE4 VCL backend cleaned up + KF5 (Jan-Marek) * UX Update (Kendy) + Save button improvement got into RC2 * Crashtest update (Caolan + ? import failures, ? export failures, ??? coverity + looks mostly well, pptx export crash on assertion that Michael S. added + investigating if DOCX code can used in PPTX too (Michael S.) * Hackfests (Bjoern) + FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016 + please show up! + and have your slides before you arrive to Hackfest, so that you don't spend the hackfest doing slides ;-) + Bjoern arrives later + next venues / suggestions + Turkey + talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training. + mid-March expected. + considering another Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten) + April 6-8th (7-9th) possibly Plan is to craft it according to the Japanese Mini-Conference, with a broader local community appeal + Japanese event (?) + 9th January in Osaka https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP + 10th January, hackfest http://libojapan.connpass.com/event/24081/ + Cambridge again ? * Mentoring Update (JanI) + Thanks to seotaewon...@yahoo.co.kr, who submitted a list of mails with licensestatements from people not in developers, updated. + Gerrit backlog completed, status 136 open patches, 48 from non-committers, oldest 17 December 2015 + all patches from non-committers have comments + new wiki page page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GetInvolved/DeveloperStepByStep + review of English appreciated + wiki page being prepared java->python text thanks to Björn + stuff that can be avoided in Python (like queryInterface) + wiki page about antivirus (painfully testing exceptions on windows) + what documents to exclude + Preparing to attack bugzilla + look at assigned bugs, without movement + try to identify non-committers with assigned bugs + opportunity to ask (Bjoern) + when no reply, reset to default (Bjoern / Kendy) + cleanup Easy Hacks should not be assigned to people in general (Michael S.) + so that such tasks scale (Michael S.) + agree (Bjoern) + might be good to try to query for patches attached (that are there instead of gerrit) (Kendy) * l10n Update (Sophie) + nothing new * Commit Access * Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten) + Stephan kicked it off yesterday + committee will come up with names for the ESC the next week * Jenkins / CI update (Norbert) + an average week; still quite some breakage + make check enabled? (Miklos) + does not seem so according to the log(?) (Miklos) + very recent (Norbert) + dbgutil ~2 days ago, make check today in the morning (Norbert) from:Thu Jan 7 13:15:40 2016 master linux rel jobs:235 ok:214 ko:21 fail ratio:8.93% break:6 broken duration:9.03% master linux dbg jobs:230 ok:202 ko:27 fail ratio:11.73% break:8 broken duration:6.2% master mac rel jobs:230 ok:206 ko:24 fail ratio:10.43% break:10 broken duration:5.1% master mac dbg jobs:225 ok:198 ko:27 fail ratio:11.99% break:9 broken duration:7.41% master win rel jobs:143 ok:120 ko:23 fail ratio:16.08% break:7 broken duration:9.99% master win dbg jobs:140 ok:110 ko:30 fail ratio:21.42% break:12 broken duration:16.78% master win64 dbg jobs:149 ok:118 ko:31 fail ratio:20.8% break:11 broken duration:16.99% lo-5.0 mac jobs:17 ok:17 ko:0 fail ratio:0% break:0 broken duration:0% gerrit win rel jobs:381 ok:300 ko:79 fail ratio:20.73% gerrit lin rel jobs:386 ok:325 ko:59 fail ratio:15.28% gerrit mac rel jobs:386 ok:304 ko:80 fail ratio:20.72% gerrit all jobs:384 ok:232 ko:150 fail ratio:39.06% * Easy Hacks: + new easy-hacks thanks to: Björn Michaelsen, Michael Meeks + http://bit.ly/1mpGhJx + create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup" + create new easy hacks from these proposed ones (or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible): https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval * "Suggestions" in the development ML (Bjoern) + development ML should be focused on technicalities (Bjoern) + please help moving the discussion elsewhere unless it talks about core-code: (user discussion list) (Bjoern) + luckily this thread has died already (Thorsten) * QA update (Robinson) + UNCONFIRMED: 603 (influx of enhancements) + enhancements: 56 (underrepresented: Several new bugs need triage) + in ux-advise: 31 + needAdvice at 80 + Most Pressing Bugs: http://ur1.ca/nkp0t + tdf#97033 - EDITING - Malformed ODB file crashes when editing tables, queries, forms in master dbgutil + regression + tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong + Armin ? + tdf#96172 - Crash on opening DOCX + bibisected; anything futher QA can do? + tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages + Common issue -> lots of duplicates + Norbert bisecting (?) + Mail merge regressions (Bjoern) + http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (7 open; 8 open last meeting) + having a look (Thorsten, Kendy, Jan-Marek) + are they backported to 5.0? (Bjoern) + Jan-Marek fixed 3, backported 3 to 5.1, 2 to 5.0, AI: push the last MM fix to 5.0 too + Jan-Marek watching this, but short on time currently + tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4) + Crash. * QA stats + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +145 -127 (+18 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Michael Meeks 20 Maxim Monastirsky 9 Jean-Baptiste Faure 7 Miklos Vajna 6 Adolfo Jayme 5 Beluga 5 V Stuart Foote 4 Eike Rathke 4 Timur 4 Mike Kaganski 4 Julien Nabet 4 Joel Madero 3 m.a.riosv 3 raal 3 * Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"): 5.2: 1/2 - 50% +1 5.1: 2/24 - 8% +0 5.0: 10/52 - 19% +0 4.4: 14/75 - 17% +0 4.3: 6/68 - 8% -1 4.2: 11/134 - 8% +0 4.1: 5/80 - 6% +0 4.0: 11/81 - 13% +0 old: 40/247 - 16% +0 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected' + 406/1229 353/1140 344/1125 343/1116 335/1103 336/1098 332/1088 341/1089 + http://tdf.io/bibibugs * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 754(-5) bugs open of 4605(+23) total 37(-3) high prio. * ~Component count net * high severity regressions Calc - 17 (+0) Writer - 10 (-2) LibreOffice - 5 (+0) Base - 2 (+1) Impress - 2 (-1) graphics stack - 0 (-1) Extensions - 0 (-1) + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E * ~Component count net * all regressions Writer - 240 (-2) Calc - 163 (-4) Crashes - 57 (+0) LibreOffice - 52 (+6) Impress - 50 (+1) UI - 45 (-1) Borders - 31 (+1) Draw - 29 (+2) Base - 28 (+1) graphics stack - 28 (-3) filters and storage - 19 (+0) BASIC - 15 (+0) Printing and PDF export- 11 (-1) Chart - 14 (+1) Formula Editor - 6 (+0) Linguistic - 3 (+0) Installation - 2 (+0) Extensions - 2 (-1) sdk - 1 (+0) framework - 1 (+0) + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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