Hi Sophie, Cor, QA,

maybe defining a target for the sessions could help.

On one side, I think people are not waiting for a session to report the issues they find, in fact there are a lot of reports about 5.1.

On the other there is not a definite objective for the sessions.

IMHO sessions could be to analyze specifically the Release Notes.

I had done with the two first for 5.1, on the last holidays, now pending to report on the QA ML.

Here my draft of what I did:

*********************************************************************
Title:
Testing Release Notes 5.1 - Spelling dialog no longer automatically closes once spellcheck is complete. tdf#79312 (Marek Dolezel)

Release notes link: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.1#Writer

OS:            Win10x64
Processor:     IC i3 CPU M 330 @2.13GHz
Graphics:      AMD M Radeon HD 5000 v15.11

LibreOffice options:
- Memory        Graphics cache 48 MB
- OpenGL        Enable.
                Disable.
- OpenCL        N/A
- Other         N/A

Version: 5.1.0.0.beta2 (x64)
Build ID: 53054959a12edc6510f51b94ddc9b73d27aedaf6
Threads 4; Ver: Windows 6.19; Render: default;

Version master: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: a454a9b3ae0f6ab81012fbef7b3ff6f0f44bf6cb
Threads 4; Ver: Windows 6.19; Render: default;
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-12-02_06:37:24

Test:
        - With blank page
        - Replacing several words
        - Without words to replace.
        - With a large file GS42-GettingStartedLO.odt

Test result:    Ok.:)

Help:   - inner N/A
        - net   N/A

Usability:              10/10
Overall evaluation:     08/10

Implications:   N/A.
Comments:       N/A.
*********************************************************************

Or perhaps something like this could be standardized in Moztrap, so we can have a better organize record.

The second fact is that devs if they like :), can follow the verification of their work, having a feedback about, from people who are not necessarily being devs, but usually with a certain level of acknowledgment on the use of LibreOffice.

Regards.
Miguel Ángel.

El 05/02/16 a las 9:03, Cor Nouws escribió:
Hi Sophie, all,

Sophie wrote on 04-02-16 14:02:

We would like to rethink the bug hunting sessions organization to make
them more attractive. The last ones were really too quiet with few
people joining.

Good that you ask! I've noticed the problem too.
No clear idea for a solution in mind yet, but let me start to explain
what we've seen over the past years.
With the first (few) bughunt sessions there was a clear energy among the
QA volunteers. Because is was new, there was the feeling of urgency,
excitement and so on. And it was new to the general public and media
too. So there was a great coverage.
Now it's not new, maybe some people have the feeling that getting a bit
more rest is more urgent then doing a bit more QA work, there is no
feeling of urgency. It's a PR, that we know will be there 6 times a year...

What would be your ideas?
Cloph already proposed to have them on one day only. Would Friday be the
good day?

Thinking of a new form is good. And maybe even more.
What pops up in my mind now: imagine that the ESC defines a area in
product, that could benefit from a tender to get bugs solved and that
the board puts, say, 100 k in (I realize there are some constraints
around that, but expect that could be solved). Such a project would
probably benefit from a careful clean up and further testing of bugs in
that area. So that would be new and have a new appealing goal.

Anyway: the regular form doesn't work any more. So maybe with each new
release define a goal (announce something related to new features for
example), and find a different or related form?

Look forward to what others think,
Ciao,
Cor

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