Hi Paul

It would be much appreciated if you could report the issue on our bug tracker, 
so we can hope to figure the issue out and eventually fix it: 
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dark mode?).

Thank you.

On 2 August 2024 12:53:20 am AEST, paul hofseth <p...@hofseth.co> wrote:
>sirs,
>
>I occasionally look at your dialogues and at times misguidedly complain about 
>program stability rather than lack of "bells and whistles" .
>
>I do realize that your task is dealing with the user interface and not with 
>the data mechanics, but do hope that you have communication lines that concern 
>program usefulness-.
>
>This time I am sorely tempted to comment on the disability of reading 
>monopolistic texts in docX format even if it lies outside your remit.
>
>When working with our new book i have discovered a msjor annoyance when my 
>co-authors use microsoft or apple. Black text on black background is not 
>enlightening in any sense of the word.
>
>p.
>
>Den 01-08-2024 16:33, skrev Csongor Halmai:
>> Hi Heiko,
>> 
>> you wrote this:
>> 
>>    + necessary if the app DPI differs from the screen DPI (Csongor)
>> 
>> but I didn't say this.
>> 
>> I meant in my comment that this feature would be useful when you want to see 
>> more information than the resolution of your screen (and your eyes) allows. 
>> You could magnify the region of interest (ROI) while you still can see the 
>> big picture as well.
>> 
>> I created a mimicking screenshot in GIMP how I think it should look: 
>> https://i.ibb.co/WW0WsxC/magnifier-sample.png
>> 
>> Disclaimer: for the screenshot, I used the Spherize filter of GIMP, which is 
>> geometrically not identical to a magnifier lens but shows well enough what I 
>> would like to see.
>> 
>> In order to not hide anything from the underlying screen, it is essential 
>> that the center of the circle shows things larger than their original size 
>> but at the same time, around the edge, things look smaller. This way, the 
>> magnifier doesn't cover anything, just shows some distortion around the 
>> edges.
>> 
>> A realistic lens effect can be seen here: https://youtu.be/XtCW-axRJV8?t=271
>> 
>> I think this would be such a useful feature that it should be supported at 
>> operating system level.
>> 
>> Csongor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/08/2024 04:56, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>>> Present: Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
>>> Comments: Mike, Justin, Stephane, Stuart, Cor
>>> 
>>> Tickets/Topics
>>> 
>>> (Suggested bump-up (Eyal):
>>>   * Cell selecting fat border looks ugly especially if you selected some
>>>     cell range, it also can block content in other cells
>>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161709
>>>     + Rafael: Made commits to improve the cosmetic situation, consider
>>>       the bug fixed.
>>>     + Rafael: This was done to resolve 143733, which requested the
>>>       rectangle not cover the active cell
>>>     + Heiko: Suggest accepting the current situation for now
>>>     + Eyal: Serious degradation of UX - text in surrounding cells
>>>       partially hidden, can make one value appear as another due
>>>       to hiding.
>>>     + Eyal: Suggest back-out of changes to before 143733, for now, and
>>>       reconsideration. Must fix this for 24.8 release.
>>>     + Eyal, Mihai, Rafael, Roman, flm2: Excel active cell rectangle looks
>>>       nice
>>> => please discuss at Bugzilla or the mailinglists (Heiko)
>>> )
>>> 
>>>   * No option to automatically indent multiline list entries to align
>>>     with numbering followed by space
>>>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156071
>>>     + line up *subsequent lines* of each list entry, see c12
>>>     + no good example for the necessity (Mike, Cor, Heiko)
>>>     + mandatory to have this as cross-platform feature (Justin, Cor)
>>>     + A tab is, in the general sense, an inherently flawed solution,
>>>       because once your number exceeds the tab width - you'll overflow
>>>       and the alignment will be messed up (Eyal)
>>>     + Request is reasonable (Eyal):
>>>       + Follows a different aesthetic principle: Fixed amount of space
>>>         between number and paragraph content v-start rather than uniform
>>>         content v-start across all paragraphs
>>>       + Should be implemented via a paragraph feature to move all lines
>>>         further in to respect the maximum constraints on each individual
>>>         line (e.g. numbering, wrapping around frames etc.), ensuring
>>>         that the paragraph's v-start is uniform across all lines, without
>>>         having to set it explicitly using indentation and/or tabs.
>>>       + Should be usable even without numbering being active (an aspect
>>>         of a paragraph's style)
>>>     + requires probably also to start a list from any number (Heiko)
>>>     + MSO does exactly the same as we do (Heiko)
>>>     => comment
>>> 
>>>   * Tab stop of list contents increases then decreases in default
>>>     Roman numeral list, looking messy
>>>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162133
>>>     + Microsoft Office forces right alignment for Roman numerals, often
>>>       with horrible results (Justin)
>>>     + right-alignment is not the right solution => WF (Stephane, Cor)
>>>   => solution follows bug 156071
>>> 
>>>  * PIVOTTABLE: Formating Pivot Tables
>>>    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51732
>>>    + double-click brings up the Data Field dialog currently, add
>>>      a context menu (Stephane. Cor)
>>>    + perhaps more obvious via push button? (Sahil)
>>>    => provide a context menu for the functions
>>> 
>>>  * Magnifier Tool for a quick overview and spot zoom into a document
>>>    in Multiple-page view
>>>    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162101
>>>    + magnifier is always just a click away, eg. Win + +/- on KDE
>>>    + bug it does not render again with a higher resolution (Heiko)
>>>    + "magnifier" would be an excellent feature *in general* (Stuart, Cor)
>>>    + necessary if the app DPI differs from the screen DPI (Csongor)
>>>    + duplicates / relates to bug 101646 "UI option "Scaling" was removed"
>>>      with a lot duplicates itself
>>>    + weird relation to multi-page view; suggest to do with low
>>>      priority (Eyal)
>>>    => comment
>>> 

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