Le 19/05/2013 00:05, Cor Nouws a écrit :
Hi Michel,

Michel RENON wrote (09-05-13 16:11)

While working on entrance animations, I also ran an simple test of
Impress and found bizarre behaviors :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Impress_4.0_:_urgent_bugs_and_enhancements


Thanks for gathering those and writing down.
I do recognise this partly. But obviously since I know how to make
proper use of Impress, I can avoid a lot of the pitfalls.
But that's not your point: it's for people that just need good guidance
by a clear UI behaviour.

Yes : my famous "shower faucet" ;-)
http://michel.renon.free.fr/libreoffice/robinet_douche.jpg


What do you think of my "Proposal for urgent bugs" ?

in slide view :

     remove focus in "Recently used" and "Available for use"

No, I would not like to remove the use.

Maybe my sentence was not precise enough : I added a picture to explain better :

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Proposal_for_urgent_bugs




[...]
     remove "Recently used" ? (ToBeConfirmed)

Why would you remove that choice?


please note that this point is "ToBeConfirmed" because it's only based on my own subjective feedback :
IMHO, the "recently used" panel is very disturbing
- it's difficult to understand how to behaves, how it sorts items
- it never shows the current item
- it lists templates instead of master pages
- from a simple visual pov, it nearly duplicates the "available for use" panel

IMHO, the last point is the most important : a nearly duplicate UI is best way to disturb users.



Can it be implemented easily ?

I've no real idea. But I think that things as disabling some tabs while
in Master page view, and make naming more consistent, look relatively easy.

Being easy is one point... another is people willing to implement it.

:-/

As a developer, I can tell you that having fun while coding is important. But the most important part is coding for users : creating an easy and useful software. Otherwise, it'll be just another software for few powerusers.


And the better issues are sorted out, especially more important ones,
the more likely it is that a developer will step in.
IIRC several improvements in Impress have been implemented like that
already.
Would be good to attract those hackers too for feed back at a certain
stage.

That's what I proposed in my articles.

Would it be helpful (to get more people involved maybe) to have some
graphics/screen shots?
I'm currently finishing a set of proposals (all wireframe based).
In few days, I'll upload them.
Hope you'll like them !



What I like about your ideas it that you take a whole bunch related
topics.

 Thanks !


> Did you have a look at BugZilla for like/related issues?

No.
That's why I first asked on the mailing list.



Cheers

Michel
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