https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82272
--- Comment #1 from Jay Philips <philip...@hotmail.com> --- Here is a portion of the twitter discussion i had with a professional UX coder regarding the chart icon yesterday. The full discussion can be found at < https://twitter.com/phantominker/status/496832435389468672 > ------------------------------------------------------------ @jphilipz One really easy one: There really ought to be a "Create Chart" button on the toolbar by default. I found it in the menus after a minute, but such an incredibly common business tool ought to be readily accessible and require no treasure hunts. @jphilipz Love or hate Excel's ribbon, the "Create Chart" buttons are big and bold on its "Insert" tab. It's not rocket science to find 'em. @jphilipz Even back in the toolbar days, both it and Quattro Pro all had a "Create Chart" toolbar button. @phantominker there is a 'chart' button in calc in the toolbar, its a red pie chart with a green slice @jphilipz Either it didn't exist in my version (4.1.x, I think), or that icon needs redrawing. I'll check for it when I get home tonight. @jphilipz (We use Excel at work, and I use LibreOffice [and formerly OpenOffice] at home, because open source++.) @phantominker quite sure its there as i'm running it now. :D there is an option to have larger toolbar icons in Tools > Options > View @jphilipz That red thing in this screenshot? http://www.softwarecrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/libreoffice_calc.png If that's what you're talking about, it needs redrawing. @phantominker yep the one next to the icon with a paintbrush @jphilipz So try this simple Google search: https://t.co/HcAZSY8WlE Count how many of the results look like that chart icon (hint: 0). @jphilipz It looks far more like a red "stop doing something" button than a chart icon, and the % in the corner doesn't help. @phantominker yep i think a bar chart icon would be better. i remember someone thinking that the percentage sign was some eyes @jphilipz I'd suggest a simple bar-chart icon, a few bars, each a different color. It's easy to recognize even at low resolutions, and difficult to mistake for something else. Good Ux is about meeting expectations; not about trying to change them. @phantominker yes you are the second person to have difficulty with the icon, so i'll suggest to them to change it to a bar. @phantominker or atleast the same pie chart without the percentage sign. :D @jphilipz I'd agree. Something like this may be boring, but it's unambiguous: http://www.vista-style-icons.com/libs/biz-v/3d_graph-icon.gif @phantominker i think a simple 2d version would be great as it would work well in both small and large icon sizes. @jphilipz You mean like other spreadsheet software has used for the last 20 years? Maybe a good idea. http://www.dixon.ws/quattro/screen.gif @phantominker maybe 2d when its a small icon and 3d when its a large icon @phantominker libreoffice has come out with their own icon set called Sifr and in it, its a simple flat pie chart that is easy to understand @jphilipz There's a reason why Excel, Lotus, Quattro, Numbers all used bar charts for their chart icon. Study your competition. ------------------------------------------------------------ It makes me wonder, why on windows are the default icons small and on linux they are large. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise