https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137236
--- Comment #18 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #16) > that don't take overall architectural picture into account; e.g. here, I > don't see an analysis like "This will change this from consistent into > inconsistent; yet, we estimate that about 60% users who currently use this > feature have problems, and the suggestion is expected to lower that number > to 35%". [avoiding politely the question of whether the possible change in consistency is "logical" or "subjective" (-: and completely oblivious of the overall architectural picture - but without disputing the general validity and importance of doing so ] How about an analysis like this (seriously meant): This change will guarantee with 100% that it will be possible to write a simpler, more comprehensible help page: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/swriter/01/04090001.html where (on this help page) all Types and Select items can be placed in a single table (so their relationship can be clearly indicated), rather than the current hybrid with a separate "Select" section, and where the instruction to the user is -- as the page currently says -- to insert a field, choose an item in the select list and press insert. (At present, the current help page is wrong, when some items to insert are in the Format frame. This change will also avoid having to find a way to explain these alternatives.) With all that in place, then it is easy to indicate that "Format" applies only Types "Date", "Page" "Statistics" and "Time", where format can be used to choose how dates, times, and numbers are displayed. Based on these potential improvements in the help page, we estimate that 3% of the users might read it, with 85% of them being able to successfully achieve (and/or) expand their possibility to use Document Field Types, with satisfaction. (ok, maybe this paragraph is only half-serious) Furthermore, it is predicted that with a consistent relation between Type and Select, and useful explanations of Field Types and Select in the Document Fields help, then users will gain advantage in understanding the DocInformation tab and the Variables tab, where all fields are inserted from the "Select" frame, and where Format is used (in DocInformation) like in Document to control dates and times (no numbers there) and roughly the same in Variables (now with numbers, and with greater numerical display variations (plus text) because of "Additional formats"). I suspect there already exist usability studies that show the advantage of a consistency across the tabs of the UI -- even if there are not studies of this particular Insert Fields dialog (with its different tabs). ---Please -- no reply to this analysis is needed -- but I wanted to lay out the main issue that motivated the OP and comment 14 ---- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise