https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153065
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guil...@libreoffice.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.documentfounda | |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12 | |3992 Blocks| |108400 CC| |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists | |.freedesktop.org Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Keywords| |needsUXEval --- Comment #3 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guil...@libreoffice.org> --- Again, the Tooltip being different to the Tooltip is not a bug, it's usually by design. I'll add that they can also be shorter than the label, probably because there is enough context in the menu they are used in to understand what their main function is and avoid repetition (e.g. in Shape > Distribute Selection). However, if the label and the tooltip are *too* different, e.g. providing an instruction without mentioning the name, I can understand it can create confusion when trying to identify the right button when customising the toolbar. Toolbar context menu > Visible Buttons uses the command's label, which is the same as in the Customize dialog. In that sense, it is consistent. >From experience, giving a couple of examples and then saying something like "there are many more" is pretty much guaranteed to never be entirely resolved because it is too vague. But I'll try expliciting the two examples you have given: 1) Label: Distribution Command: .uno:DistributeSelection Tooltip: Select at least three objects to distribute 2) Unsure if you refer to .uno:OutlineRight or .uno:OutlineDown (I think you mixed the label of one with the tooltip of the other), but they are similar in how their tooltip is worded, so let's go with the first one: Label: Demote Command: .uno:OutlineRight Tooltip: Demote outline level of selected list paragraphs ... I can see how the first one could be reworded into something that sounds less like instructions. It is a visible tooltip in e.g. the Tabbed UI (Home tab). PeeWee, do you have suggestions for better tooltips? The only guidelines I've seen about tooltips and labels are on this page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar#Text UX, what do you think about this? Should the 2 tooltips above be changed? And should guidelines be clarified about what tooltips and labels should contain, where they are used in the UI, and their potential size limits? Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108400 [Bug 108400] [META] Toolbar tooltip bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.