https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162420

Eyal Rozenberg <eyalr...@gmx.com> changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |UNCONFIRMED
                 CC|                            |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
                   |                            |.freedesktop.org
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---
           Keywords|                            |needsUXEval

--- Comment #21 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalr...@gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #20)
> We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

Did you really? I read the minutes; half the discussion seems to have been
about something else than the ask here. And the motivation and arguments for
this request were not refuted nor was an alternative for satisfying the
motivation suggested.


> The properties tab contains panels that contextually are shown like
> character attributes for text boxes, (glow) effects for shapes, and image
> modification for raster graphics. Among these we also have a panel for slide
> attributes and a layout picker. The context here is the whole slide, meaning
> you have to unselect other items.
>
> We discussed to always show the layout, yet collapsed, but decide against to
> maintain the context metaphor.

That's really not what this bug is about.

And you did not seem to discuss how come slide transitions is important enough
to have its own sidebar deck, and be available regardless of selection, while
slide layouts, being much much more frequent in use - does not.

> This workflow is the same as on MSO.

On the contrary, this workflow is the opposite from MSO in every way. In MS
Powerpoint:

1. changing layout is independent of what's currently selected.
2. the sidebar is never (AFAICT) used for showing a gallery of potential
layouts.
3. there are dialog-buttons for layout selection on the home ribbon, both for
new slides and for the current slides.


Bottom line: I don't know what happened in that design meeting, but a serious
discussion of this bug report is not it. Re-raising the flags so that an
_actual_ discussion take place.

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