Hi everybody,
Just a short intro for my first post in this list :
I'm a Mac OpenOffice user for several years.
I've been coding with C++ years ago, now i code mostly in PHP and Python
(OpenERP).
I'm also interested in UX and ergonomics, and i've made a (not so
complete) proposal for Renaissance project
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Michel_Renon).
Le 28/10/10 11:37, Michael Meeks a écrit :
Hi Christoph,
( and any other UX gurus out there :-)
Hi guys; I'd -love- to get a number of "easy hacks" - ie. small fixes -
that can be made to our ergonomics into the page here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Easy_Hacks
These are entry level tasks for people - but IMHO[1] an accumulation of
small failings creates an overall bad experience. The problem is that
much of StarDiv's work (due to the process penalty for small changes)
tends to be of the form "totally re-write the slides side-bar" rather
than "fix slide side-bar-multi-select glitches" :-)
I was wondering - do you have a list of small pet peeves, you know the
stuff: extra clicks, broken keyboard/mouse grabs, bad keyboard
navigation, over-complicated interactions in specific areas that we can
turn into easy hacks ? It would be great to get some volunteer
developers working on these things - and we are (so far) burning through
our most easy hacks rather quickly.
Here are some requests.
Some are enhancements, others are bugs.
I don't know if they can be considered as "easy hacks" or if i should
enter them in the bugtracker.
Please let me know.
And in which category of "easy hacks" should I insert them ?
(FYI, I already sent some of them in openoffice mailing list months ago,
but they had few or no response)
Thanks,
Michel
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* MacOS : cursor visibility :
when I type some text, mouse pointer should be hidden (the arrow or the
I-beam).
It's a standard behaviour on Mac since... 1984 !
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- today, when you paste an image in writer, the anchor mode is always
"to paragrah". This is very annoying when you paste several images :
they overlap.
it would be usefull to define the anchor
- in preference
- and/or during pasting
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- add a menu "Save a copy as..."
I really miss that for Calc : it would allow me to save the current
spreadsheet in csv, while not changing the current ods file.
It should be usefull for writer, draw and impress too.
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- today, when you want to insert a spreadsheet or draw object in writer,
you have to do :
select menu "Insert" > "Object" > "OLE object", then choose a line in a
dialog !
It should be much simpler ! most people don't know what "OLE" means.
Provide a more direct acces to "insert LibreOffice
Write/Calc/Draw/Impress object" function.
Maybe show the "OLE Object" menu line only on windows ?
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- writer :
be able to search text with format "hilight color" or "background color"
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- when you open 2 windows of the same document, there is a problem with
the zoom : if you reduce zoom in one window, it may change rendering in
the other window.
Maybe the problem also appears whith scrolling.
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- draw : create a hand tool that would allow easy and fast scrolling. It
would be activated/desactivated with a keybord shortcut
In Inkscape, it seems to be CTRL + ALT
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- draw : change the object selection
exmple : create a big rect 'rectangle1'. create a smaller rect
'rectangle2', inside 'rectangle1'. For the user, 'rectangle2' is above
'rectangle1'. Select 'rectangle1' : his handles are shown. Click inside
'rectangle2' : nothing changes.
With Inkscape (and others drawing software), 'rectangle2' is selected.
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- have only one type of floating windows for tools
for example, the tools "border", "color" show a standard window.
But most others tools (specialy drawing tools) use the openoffice
implementation of floating windows.
Why not use only the openoffice implementation ?
(I don't know if it's technically possible or if it'll create UX problems)
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writer, mac : small freeze at startup
After a cold start of writer, il you start to type some text, openoffice
freezes for some seconds (loading some code ?) and then shows the text.
It's not a bug, but it gives the impression that openoffice is *slow* or
*unusuable*...
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* mouse position problem
The problem appears when you select (single-clic) an object (drawing or
OLE) in writer, Impress or Draw.
We have several steps :
step 1 : user clicks on an object (mousedown + mouseup)
step 2 : OpenOffice handle the click : draw handles on the object,
update toolbars and side panels, other stuff...
step 3 : the user move the mouse in order to change properties of
object (through toolbars or panels)
The problem in Mac OS is :
- the step 2 takes a noticeable amount of time (> 0,5 second with OOo 3.1)
- at the end of step 2, Openoffice has lost the 'mouseup' event (bug ?)
: if the user starts to moves the mouse before the end of step 2,
OpenOffice starts a 'move object' command !!
The only workaround (for me) is to wait at least 1 second every time i
click on an object, till OpenOffice finishes the toolbars updates.
The time taken is step 2 seems to be related to the size of the object :
if you insert a big jpg file in Draw (hundreds Kb), it become obvious.
I tested on Ubuntu and it doesn't appear : step 2 is quite instant.
This problem was horrible with OOo 3.1 and is reduced with OOo 3.2 (but
still present I presume), due to performance enhancements.
I don't know if it's mac-only.
The problem also appears when you select a slide in the left column of
Impress. If you perform others clicks in the list (before the end of
openoffice's update), you may have strange behavior (slide moves,
multi-slide selection...)
I created a screencast of this pb under Impress 3.2 :
http://michel.renon.free.fr/OpenOffice/click_impress.mov (6.8 Mb)
I just clicked on slides 1, 2, 3, 2, 1....and repeat until OOo moves one
slide (the third becomes the second)
FYI, I have a MacBookPro 2,16 Ghz 3Gb RAM.
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Writer MacOS : problem with text rendering
OOo draws he text cursor (the blinking "|" in the text, not the mouse)
at some wrong positions in full justification.
It's very obvious when there are few words on the line and when OOo is
obliged to extend a lot the spaces.
I created an example that explains the problem
http://michel.renon.free.fr/OpenOffice/OOO_pb_text.odt
the first text line is the text the user has entered.
the last line is a simulation of what OOo compute to draw the text
cursor : i manually extended spaces.
But when we compare with Ubuntu, we can see that the problem is reversed
: the line used for simulation is ok ! the first line drawn in mac os is
not ok.
And if we export in pdf, we have the same answer :
http://michel.renon.free.fr/OpenOffice/OOO_pb_text.pdf
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