Wouldnt the FAA OR SOME AGENCY HAVE SOME INPUT ON THINGS LIKE THAT.. On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, jimgarrett...@gmail.com < jimgarrett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This thread got me wondering also if there were cases where public > interest demands some sort of control. What about jetliner software? This > software is extremely rigorously reviewed by government agency, at least in > the US. Should the user (jetliner company) have the right to modify such > software? Not without review, in my opinion. > > However, it's in the public interest for the software to be available for > public review. This much, at least, seems clear to me. > > Jim Garrett > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Aaron E-J" <t...@otherrealm.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@otherrealm.org');>> > To: <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org');>> > Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] [fsf-community-team] Golden Rule Angle for > Libre Software Advocacy > Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2016 15:11 > > > If an open source device is modified by the end consumer and this > consumer does not know what they are doing, in the medical field this > can have life threatening consequences. People who do not understand > what it means for something to be open source could take a press release > about such a scenario and run with it; saying that this is a reason for > keeping code a secret. Such a program needs for the devices themselves > to be very secure and un-hackable, but for the method by which the > devices are made and the source code to be open. There is tremendous > potential for a bridge to be formed between the users of the > technologies and their development. > > I was working on a project to develop an open source electrical muscle > stimulation device with the initial use going towards the development of > a gait retraining system. This is currently on hold, but I would be > interested in working with other people in starting an open source > medical device organization geared towards developing new devices and > advocating for a more libre healthcare system. > > You can read more details about the device I was developing on my > website: otherrealm.org > > Let me know if you are interested in such an organization or if you know > of existing organizations with this focus. > > > Aaron E-J > > http://otherrealm.org > > http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > > On 2016-08-13 2:24 PM, Marcos Marado wrote: > > > I won't go as far as to talk about robotic bodies, but the issue is > pertinent today, with current technology. > > I recently read about a > woman who has a pacemaker. It had a software bug, which frightened her. > She knows /of/ it but she doesn't know it, since she doesn't have access > to the software running on her own body. Furthermore, she found out that > there is a functionality in it to accept OTA updates, which she cannot > control. Scary. And this is not science fiction, this is a real case, > current technology. > > Unfortunately I don't recall where I read about > this, but it was in the last couple of weeks. On FSFE's newsletter, > maybe? > > Anyway, the question can be rephrased to "how ethical it is > to implant non-free software on someone's body?". > > Best regards, > -- > > Marcos Marado > ANSOL.org > > > On Aug 12, 2016 16:42, "Logan > Streondj" <streo...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','streo...@gmail.com');> <mailto: > streo...@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','streo...@gmail.com');>>> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I recently gave a presentation[1] on my libreware project, and someone > > said they really liked the Golden Rule angle of reincarnating as a robot > > . > > > > The typical example I've often read advocating for libreware is the > > car analogy, where you have access to your cars internals. This was a > > great analogy when cars didn't have loads of proprietary software > > installed -- unfortunately it is only increasing because of > > self-driving cars. > > > > However now as we get closer to the twenty twenties, when the > > processing of a human brain should be affordable for a $1000. > > The analogy I use now is: > > > > "When you reincarnate as a robot, do you want to be enslaved by > > proprietary software and hardware, or be liberated by libre software > > and hardware?" > > > > Anyways wondering what you guys think of this angle, > > and if you might use it also. > > I have more detailed slides in my presentation[1]. > > > > > > [1] my presentation SPEL and GI-OS overview (CC-BY-SA): PDF > > http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf > > <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf> > > source TEX: > > wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex > > <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex> > > > > > ____ > > Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org > <http://irc.gnu.org> #fsf > Sharing news and links: #fsfct > https://microca.st/fsf & https://status.fsf.org/fsf > How to use > this list: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow > <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow> > > > > >