I agree completely. We could attract people with an enjoyable experiece and the community feeling. We should investigate how FSF and GNU can improve these areas. Regards, MSavoritias
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:29, Yasuaki Kudo <y...@yasuaki.com> wrote: In a way, I think money is not even a big issue. I recently came across this article: [1]https://newrepublic.com/article/121832/pleasure-do-it-yourself-slow- computing Applying the "Slow Food" analogy, our point would not be pouring money so that it becomes "Less Slow" 😄 I would say, we need to have more people enjoy it. So in practical terms, we need to develop a huge communal kitchen, instead of an industrial food factory. The workers at food factory, or paid computer programmers at Microsoft, for example, would not go there were it not for the money. However, the people at communal kitchens at camping sites go there for the enjoyment of it! Free Software development should a very enjoyable activity and we should aim to develop a practical regime of constantly welcoming new participants, educating them and empowering them to enjoy and contribute meaningfully to the Fee Software ecosystem 😄 -Yasu On Jul 24, 2020, at 06:36, Msavoritias <marinus.savorit...@disroot.org> wrote:  Mr Fidelman, Whether this person is or isn't correct doesn't matter. We should treat everybody respectfully otherwise we are alienating potential Free Software users from joining our community. Please try to be more polite in the future. MSavoritias On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 15:22, Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote: On 7/23/20 12:48 PM, Sagar Acharya via libreplanet-discuss wrote: I read "Free as in Freedom" by Richard Stallman and am a strong supporter of GNU project. I strongly want it to succeed. However, when you keep money away from the free software movement, such a movement cannot survive against people who actively charge money for binaries without source code. All power arises from concealment. When you understand a system very well, the power goes away and it looks ordinary. When GNU or libre movement asks contributors or volunteers (both fancy words for "work for me for free"), you present making libre software as a secondary thing rather than a central thing. When projects licensed GPLv3 rely almost completely on "donations" from other, you rely on the donor's generosity for getting food at your table. I really want people to remove reliance on external things and make GNU central and very active. So what's your point? FOSS is doing quite well. Apache powers the web. Postfix powers email. Linux, Python, ... And plenty of the bug guys pay good money to folks who crank out FOSS software. What's the point of pontificating & spouting counter-factual bullshit? Do you just like making a fool of yourself? Or am I missing something? Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [2]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss References 1. https://newrepublic.com/article/121832/pleasure-do-it-yourself-slow-computing
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